Effective coding is not code first think later. LLMs aren't effective when used this way. You still have to think. IMO a vibe coder who is speaking their ide

Effective coding is not code first think later. LLMs aren't effective when used this way. You still have to think. IMO a vibe coder who is speaking their ideas to an agent which implements them is going to have way more time to think than a hand coder who is spending 80% of their time editing text.