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There is a long and shameful history of repair techs and computer shops doing this to people. From the stories I've heard from people who've been in that indus

There is a long and shameful history of repair techs and computer shops doing this to people. From the stories I've heard from people who've been in that industry, looking for nudes on customer devices has been almost an expected and tacitly tolerated norm for decades. Its not going to stop on it's own, so we need to start throwing the book at these people. Very long prison sentences are in order. It's a form of sexual abuse and should be considered a very severe felony.

Noumenon72 1y ago
I think we should continue with the consequentialist approach where the trust violation and right to privacy are considered creepy but not punished as strictly as sexual abuse that actually harms someone or traumatizes them. "Uploads the nudes to Facebook" is not a bad place to draw the line. I spend a lot of time watching TikToks of people in prison and it is a terrible punishment where a few weeks outweighs any harm done to these victims.
- voidfunc 1y ago
  Prison is a deterrent.
  - c22 1y ago
    Not really. Most people only break the rules when they think they're not going to get caught.
- lupusreal 1y ago
  I see no material difference between stealing nudes from somebody, and secretly setting up a camera in a bathroom. In both cases the victims don't know, so no harm is done right? Wrong. That's bullshit. Long prison sentences would serves as strong denunciation of their behavior. We need to be sending these freaks to prison so that the rest of society can feel assured that their government takes the matter seriously.
imglorp 1y ago
Criminal yes. But also civil penalties that would mean closing repair shops that don't work ethically.
SoftTalker 1y ago
Been going on long before that. When I was in high school a friend worked at a camera shop where they also did photo finishing in-house. Very common for them to make extra prints of all the nudes and amateur porn and circulate them amongst themselves and their friends. On the one hand, that's a privacy violation. On the other hand, what did people expect when they brought their film in for processing---that nobody would see the photos? My guess is that a lot of them had an exhibitionist thing going on.
- schoen 1y ago
  They may have expected that the photo techs wouldn't make extra copies, though -- that they'd do what was necessary for the job but no more. (That expectation is even compatible with exhibitionism! "The photo tech will see my nudes. That's kind of cool! Of course, he wouldn't make extra copies because that would be unprofessional, maybe illegal.")
man8alexd 1y ago
There is a research paper on the subject "No Privacy in the Electronics Repair Industry" from 2023 https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10179413 https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10179413 TLDR: Researchers visited 11 service providers in Canada to replace a laptop battery. 10 out of 11 service providers requested OS passwords, 8 stored the password in their database and 5 printed the password on a sticky note and attached it to the device. In the second part of the study, the researchers prepared laptops with an easy-to-fix problem, some revealing pictures on the disk and custom logging software. In 6 out of 16 cases, the photos were opened and viewed and in 2 cases, logs were missing.

Noumenon72 1y ago

I think we should continue with the consequentialist approach where the trust violation and right to privacy are considered creepy but not punished as strictly as sexual abuse that actually harms someone or traumatizes them. "Uploads the nudes to Facebook" is not a bad place to draw the line. I spend a lot of time watching TikToks of people in prison and it is a terrible punishment where a few weeks outweighs any harm done to these victims.

voidfunc 1y ago
Prison is a deterrent.
- c22 1y ago
  Not really. Most people only break the rules when they think they're not going to get caught.
lupusreal 1y ago
I see no material difference between stealing nudes from somebody, and secretly setting up a camera in a bathroom. In both cases the victims don't know, so no harm is done right? Wrong. That's bullshit. Long prison sentences would serves as strong denunciation of their behavior. We need to be sending these freaks to prison so that the rest of society can feel assured that their government takes the matter seriously.

imglorp 1y ago

Criminal yes. But also civil penalties that would mean closing repair shops that don't work ethically.

SoftTalker 1y ago

Been going on long before that. When I was in high school a friend worked at a camera shop where they also did photo finishing in-house. Very common for them to make extra prints of all the nudes and amateur porn and circulate them amongst themselves and their friends. On the one hand, that's a privacy violation. On the other hand, what did people expect when they brought their film in for processing---that nobody would see the photos? My guess is that a lot of them had an exhibitionist thing going on.

schoen 1y ago
They may have expected that the photo techs wouldn't make extra copies, though -- that they'd do what was necessary for the job but no more. (That expectation is even compatible with exhibitionism! "The photo tech will see my nudes. That's kind of cool! Of course, he wouldn't make extra copies because that would be unprofessional, maybe illegal.")

man8alexd 1y ago

There is a research paper on the subject "No Privacy in the Electronics Repair Industry" from 2023 https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10179413 https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10179413 TLDR: Researchers visited 11 service providers in Canada to replace a laptop battery. 10 out of 11 service providers requested OS passwords, 8 stored the password in their database and 5 printed the password on a sticky note and attached it to the device. In the second part of the study, the researchers prepared laptops with an easy-to-fix problem, some revealing pictures on the disk and custom logging software. In 6 out of 16 cases, the photos were opened and viewed and in 2 cases, logs were missing.