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> So Apple et all are making a reasonable choice. Interesting how people rationalize this stuff. My phone can dock to a screen; I've never used the feature, bu

> So Apple et all are making a reasonable choice. Interesting how people rationalize this stuff. My phone can dock to a screen; I've never used the feature, but it doesn't obstruct anything I do. It's a nice-to-have, and it would be kinda appealing if Firefox and Spotify both work like normal. I might even deign to say I could get work done on it (though I've never tried). Presumably the real reason is that Apple is still afraid to segment their market. A plug-in iPhone would stop people from buying the AppleTV or Mac Mini for home theater applications.

GeekyBear 1y ago
Chrome on Android doesn't allow you to use plugins like uBlock Origin. People manage to rationalize that decision, which makes the web largely unusable for users in the name of protecting Google's bottom line. Thankfully, there are other options.
- bigyabai 1y ago
  Great advice, thanks for sharing! I use Firefox/Gecko with upstream Ublock Origin on Android, like I said one comment ago. You should try it, but you might need a desktop computer if your smartphone discriminates against browser engines.
  - GeekyBear 1y ago
    Until Google blocks Firefox on Android the way they have already blocked the full version of uBlock Origin from working in desktop Chrome? They seem very serious about using every lever at their disposal to prevent YouTube users from having access to adblock that works.
scarface_74 1y ago
You really think Apple is worried about the sales of the AppleTV and Mac Mini? Two of their lowest selling devices? You can already plug an iPhone into a TV for video with a standard non proprietary HDMI to USB C cable and AirPlay is available on $49 Roku sticks.
- bigyabai 1y ago
  Presumably. Is your guess any better?
  - scarface_74 1y ago
    Only around 10% of Apple’s revenue is the Mac and every estimate is 70% of those are laptops. The AppleTV is far behind in market share for media center devices or whatever you call Roku, Fire sticks etc. You can already stream from your iPhone via AirPlay to at least Roku sticks/TVs and I assume others. The number of people who want to use an iPhone as a full computer is miniscule.
commandersaki 1y ago
I'll chuck in another rationalisation from just one angle (of many). It's a low in demand feature that if they implement they would have to support. One thing that Apple does incredibly well (I really can't think of any tech company that comes close) is provide front line support for virtually every capability and feature in the Apple ecosystem. This means they have to resource support people to know how the feature works, and troubleshoot it when things have issue, dedicate engineer resources if an issue cannot be fixed and requires escalation, etc. Just having such a feature involves a cost, and the juice is just not worth the squeeze. Curious, if your phone supports the feature and it doesn't work, what is your recourse?

GeekyBear 1y ago

Chrome on Android doesn't allow you to use plugins like uBlock Origin. People manage to rationalize that decision, which makes the web largely unusable for users in the name of protecting Google's bottom line. Thankfully, there are other options.

bigyabai 1y ago
Great advice, thanks for sharing! I use Firefox/Gecko with upstream Ublock Origin on Android, like I said one comment ago. You should try it, but you might need a desktop computer if your smartphone discriminates against browser engines.
- GeekyBear 1y ago
  Until Google blocks Firefox on Android the way they have already blocked the full version of uBlock Origin from working in desktop Chrome? They seem very serious about using every lever at their disposal to prevent YouTube users from having access to adblock that works.

scarface_74 1y ago

You really think Apple is worried about the sales of the AppleTV and Mac Mini? Two of their lowest selling devices? You can already plug an iPhone into a TV for video with a standard non proprietary HDMI to USB C cable and AirPlay is available on $49 Roku sticks.

bigyabai 1y ago
Presumably. Is your guess any better?
- scarface_74 1y ago
  Only around 10% of Apple’s revenue is the Mac and every estimate is 70% of those are laptops. The AppleTV is far behind in market share for media center devices or whatever you call Roku, Fire sticks etc. You can already stream from your iPhone via AirPlay to at least Roku sticks/TVs and I assume others. The number of people who want to use an iPhone as a full computer is miniscule.

commandersaki 1y ago

I'll chuck in another rationalisation from just one angle (of many). It's a low in demand feature that if they implement they would have to support. One thing that Apple does incredibly well (I really can't think of any tech company that comes close) is provide front line support for virtually every capability and feature in the Apple ecosystem. This means they have to resource support people to know how the feature works, and troubleshoot it when things have issue, dedicate engineer resources if an issue cannot be fixed and requires escalation, etc. Just having such a feature involves a cost, and the juice is just not worth the squeeze. Curious, if your phone supports the feature and it doesn't work, what is your recourse?