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You said "you could wind up on a terrorist watch list for posting apolitical cartoon frog memes," but you're linking to an article about violent extremists. Wh

by krapp 1y ago

You said "you could wind up on a terrorist watch list for posting apolitical cartoon frog memes," but you're linking to an article about violent extremists. Which is it? Is the problem that Biden was putting people on a watchlist for completely innocuous and arbitrary memes or is the problem that he was putting violent extremists on a watchlist who happened to sometimes employ memes?

fuejxbfbdbjd 1y ago
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- saubeidl 1y ago
  The Trump admin literally declared antifascism as terrorism.
  - worik 1y ago
    Accusation is confession
- krapp 1y ago
  > My entire point is that the Biden administration was labeling innocuous content as "violent extremism. No they weren't. First, white supremacists do use the pepe meme, they intentionally adopted it as a symbol, so there is a correlation between that meme and violent extremism, albeit a weak one. You're pretending not to be perfectly aware of this, so I think you're the one not acting in good faith here. I read the slides. Nowhere is it stated that using a frog meme makes one a violent extremist, and no one has been put onto a terrorist watch list simply for using that meme. Good night, random green account.
  - lukan 1y ago
    "no one has been put onto a terrorist watch list simply for using that meme" Agreed that pepe is not apolitical and comes out of a dark corner But the linked article says "Flags from the left-wing Antifa movement. Depictions of Pepe the Frog," ... "They are all signs that extremists could be infiltrating the military, according to internal training materials " So according to that source ... maybe yes, potentially there was one put on a watch list, because he used that frog. But I kind of agree that it is warranted. A watch list. Not a list that gives you automatically problems. But a indicator to take a closer look before trusting that person with critical things. But chances are there is not just the frog. I have never seen a person using that frog who did not also used worse language and behavior. "Anticapitalists" on the other hand are usually people with a big mouth. The step from not liking the current system towards terrorism is a pretty big one. Also because anticapitalism is super vague. So I don't think it is quite the same thing.

by krapp 1y ago

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saubeidl 1y ago
The Trump admin literally declared antifascism as terrorism.
- worik 1y ago
  Accusation is confession
krapp 1y ago
> My entire point is that the Biden administration was labeling innocuous content as "violent extremism. No they weren't. First, white supremacists do use the pepe meme, they intentionally adopted it as a symbol, so there is a correlation between that meme and violent extremism, albeit a weak one. You're pretending not to be perfectly aware of this, so I think you're the one not acting in good faith here. I read the slides. Nowhere is it stated that using a frog meme makes one a violent extremist, and no one has been put onto a terrorist watch list simply for using that meme. Good night, random green account.
- lukan 1y ago
  "no one has been put onto a terrorist watch list simply for using that meme" Agreed that pepe is not apolitical and comes out of a dark corner But the linked article says "Flags from the left-wing Antifa movement. Depictions of Pepe the Frog," ... "They are all signs that extremists could be infiltrating the military, according to internal training materials " So according to that source ... maybe yes, potentially there was one put on a watch list, because he used that frog. But I kind of agree that it is warranted. A watch list. Not a list that gives you automatically problems. But a indicator to take a closer look before trusting that person with critical things. But chances are there is not just the frog. I have never seen a person using that frog who did not also used worse language and behavior. "Anticapitalists" on the other hand are usually people with a big mouth. The step from not liking the current system towards terrorism is a pretty big one. Also because anticapitalism is super vague. So I don't think it is quite the same thing.