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These things are the composition equivalent of Guitar Hero... They give users (players?) a sense of agency, making it satisfying. But in reality, you're no mor
by iainctduncan 1y ago
These things are the composition equivalent of Guitar Hero...
They give users (players?) a sense of agency, making it satisfying. But in reality, you're no more composing than a guitar-hero player is playing the guitar, and nor will you learn how to from doing so. No matter how sophisticated the transformations in an LLM, you're ultimately using other people's music in a sophisticated mashup game.
However, in guitar hero, the people's who's music was being used at least got royalties. :-/
- andhuman 1y agoSuno does have the cover feature, where you can upload your own playing, say playing a simple melody on a guitar, and it will take that and create a song from it, together with lyrics you wrote. So it can be fairly fulfilling. What it doesn’t allow you is full control of the composition. But that’s AI.
- iainctduncan 1y agoWell, that's LLMs. I'm doing a PhD in computer science and music right now, focused on programming languages for music and algorithmic composition. There are other (IMHO) more interesting techniques that can be used in music and that used to be called AI, with which you do have control over and understanding of exactly what's happening, such as constraint satisfaction programming and dynamic search. Ge Wang (professor in my field) wrote a great article on why LLMs are so uninteresting from a musical perspective. https://hai.stanford.edu/news/ge-wang-genai-art-is-the-least-imaginative-use-of-ai-imaginable https://hai.stanford.edu/news/ge-wang-genai-art-is-the-least...