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Sounds like boomer-speak for they sent one of those full-screen SMS messages (aka 'flash SMS') with a link to a livestream. You guys read too much Tom Clancy.

by pfexec 1y ago

Sounds like boomer-speak for they sent one of those full-screen SMS messages (aka 'flash SMS') with a link to a livestream. You guys read too much Tom Clancy. If spammers can do it and send me links to phishing sites so can one of the most technologically-proficient governments. You really think they would waste multiple 0-days on some bullshit like this?

themafia 1y ago
> too much Tom Clancy. Isn't this is the nation that planted explosives into pagers? I think they're the ones reading too much Clancy. > so can one of the most technologically-proficient governments. How would you feel if China did this to your nation? Would you marvel at their proficiency or perhaps focus on the complete lack of diplomacy it displays?
- yonisto 1y ago
  I would feel that the responsible adult that was in charge of my protection is doing a lousy job. So he should surrender and spare us the war. How would you feel? Insulted?
  - themafia 1y ago
    > the responsible adult that was in charge of my protection So you're infantilizing an entire nation to make this point? > So he should surrender and spare us the war. Do you have any measure on this sentiment among the population currently? If it is, as it is in so many places, that the leaders actions are detached from the will of the voters, then what should we make of this? Should they be allowed to surrender to a _neutral_ party? Should they be allowed to keep their state? Is there any reason not to presume a peaceful negotiation under these terms? Is there any reason to attempt to assassinate the party trying to coordinate this? > How would you feel? Insulted? Violated. These are _our_ emergency broadcast services. They should be used for the intended purpose and not to force an angry political message on a powerless population. Do you not have any good faith in yourself for this topic?
    - yonisto 1y ago
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      - tomhow 1y ago
        > Your comment is all over the place, but it is very telling. You are a confused westerner Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
bigyabai 1y ago
> You guys read too much Tom Clancy. Seymour Hersh, actually.

by pfexec 1y ago

themafia 1y ago

> too much Tom Clancy. Isn't this is the nation that planted explosives into pagers? I think they're the ones reading too much Clancy. > so can one of the most technologically-proficient governments. How would you feel if China did this to your nation? Would you marvel at their proficiency or perhaps focus on the complete lack of diplomacy it displays?

yonisto 1y ago
I would feel that the responsible adult that was in charge of my protection is doing a lousy job. So he should surrender and spare us the war. How would you feel? Insulted?
- themafia 1y ago
  > the responsible adult that was in charge of my protection So you're infantilizing an entire nation to make this point? > So he should surrender and spare us the war. Do you have any measure on this sentiment among the population currently? If it is, as it is in so many places, that the leaders actions are detached from the will of the voters, then what should we make of this? Should they be allowed to surrender to a _neutral_ party? Should they be allowed to keep their state? Is there any reason not to presume a peaceful negotiation under these terms? Is there any reason to attempt to assassinate the party trying to coordinate this? > How would you feel? Insulted? Violated. These are _our_ emergency broadcast services. They should be used for the intended purpose and not to force an angry political message on a powerless population. Do you not have any good faith in yourself for this topic?
  - yonisto 1y ago
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    - tomhow 1y ago
      > Your comment is all over the place, but it is very telling. You are a confused westerner Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

bigyabai 1y ago

> You guys read too much Tom Clancy. Seymour Hersh, actually.