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What a dystopian and depressing outlook on the valuation and enjoyment of art. Truly hope you're an anomaly.

a456463 1y ago
Couldn't agree more. Instead of seeking out people making that art, we are now leaving "art" or human expressive emotion to random noise and paying for it.
meowface 1y ago
I simultaneously feel repulsed by AI music and "art" and yet am totally open to being captivated by AI music if I really feel something is musically better than almost any human-made music I've heard. I just haven't heard anything that isn't "slopful" yet. If I do, I will still feel weird about it, but I'm a big believer in the value of "aesthetic objects in themselves", so I am eager to find something I do actually like. Even just knowing something was drawn or composed by an AI will negatively taint my opinion from the start, but I'm still open.
- lomase 1y ago
  I do love generative music. I don't care if you get your notes from a markov chain a shif register a LLM or your brain. The problem with AI music is that is just sounds like shit.
  - meowface 1y ago
    Right. That's pretty much my stance. I don't totally discount the position that the human "soul" is what makes art art and all that, but I still do think something can be very enjoyable and good without being created by a sentient entity, in theory.
  - cindyllm 1y ago
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  - dumpsterdiver 1y ago
    Even AI generated dubstep? https://suno.com/s/gJhedd4hmIsHbccc https://suno.com/s/gJhedd4hmIsHbccc https://suno.com/s/qfFWu3kyQ2cXW8mT https://suno.com/s/qfFWu3kyQ2cXW8mT
    - Mc_Big_G 1y ago
      Yes
    - leokeba 1y ago
      Oh wow that sounds so bad, even worse than I imagined.
    - Applejinx 1y ago
      I hang out with dubstep and DnB guys on a UK forum. If they're looking to rave out they'll make something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0Pg7fnkAg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0Pg7fnkAg You'll notice many similarities in instrumentation, but how is Suno not like a bad RealAudio take on some of these noises haphazardly lumped together? Or, same artist, different track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhvpCHfe0m0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhvpCHfe0m0 Don't you need more focus and aggression to make even sell-out weak tea dubstep? I feel the generative process really severely fails to deliver anywhere near the correct sound, even for 'bad artificial lol dubstep' sounds. Another even closer to the intent of the Suno one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3q_kmpq-9Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3q_kmpq-9Y

Couldn't agree more. Instead of seeking out people making that art, we are now leaving "art" or human expressive emotion to random noise and paying for it.

meowface 1y ago

I simultaneously feel repulsed by AI music and "art" and yet am totally open to being captivated by AI music if I really feel something is musically better than almost any human-made music I've heard. I just haven't heard anything that isn't "slopful" yet. If I do, I will still feel weird about it, but I'm a big believer in the value of "aesthetic objects in themselves", so I am eager to find something I do actually like. Even just knowing something was drawn or composed by an AI will negatively taint my opinion from the start, but I'm still open.

lomase 1y ago
I do love generative music. I don't care if you get your notes from a markov chain a shif register a LLM or your brain. The problem with AI music is that is just sounds like shit.
- meowface 1y ago
  Right. That's pretty much my stance. I don't totally discount the position that the human "soul" is what makes art art and all that, but I still do think something can be very enjoyable and good without being created by a sentient entity, in theory.
- cindyllm 1y ago
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- dumpsterdiver 1y ago
  Even AI generated dubstep? https://suno.com/s/gJhedd4hmIsHbccc https://suno.com/s/gJhedd4hmIsHbccc https://suno.com/s/qfFWu3kyQ2cXW8mT https://suno.com/s/qfFWu3kyQ2cXW8mT
  - Mc_Big_G 1y ago
    Yes
  - leokeba 1y ago
    Oh wow that sounds so bad, even worse than I imagined.
  - Applejinx 1y ago
    I hang out with dubstep and DnB guys on a UK forum. If they're looking to rave out they'll make something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0Pg7fnkAg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0Pg7fnkAg You'll notice many similarities in instrumentation, but how is Suno not like a bad RealAudio take on some of these noises haphazardly lumped together? Or, same artist, different track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhvpCHfe0m0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhvpCHfe0m0 Don't you need more focus and aggression to make even sell-out weak tea dubstep? I feel the generative process really severely fails to deliver anywhere near the correct sound, even for 'bad artificial lol dubstep' sounds. Another even closer to the intent of the Suno one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3q_kmpq-9Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3q_kmpq-9Y