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With Envoy (https://www.envoyproxy.io/ https://www.envoyproxy.io/) and Contour (https://projectcontour.io/ https://projectcontour.io/) being official CNCF sanct

With Envoy (https://www.envoyproxy.io/ https://www.envoyproxy.io/) and Contour (https://projectcontour.io/ https://projectcontour.io/) being official CNCF sanctioned projects in the Service Proxy space, Istio (https://istio.io/ https://istio.io/) and Linkerd (https://linkerd.io/ https://linkerd.io/) being official CNCF sanctioned projects in the Service Mesh space and Emissary Ingress (https://emissary-ingress.dev/ https://emissary-ingress.dev/) the same in the API Gateway space, just to name a few, naming yourself a standard are some pretty big words... ... Traefik is pretty good yes, but a standard? Hell no.

__turbobrew__ 1y ago
Yea, envoy is the premier open source (not open core+ paid features) proxy right now in my opinion. Modern, well supported, big community, reliable. If I was making a bet long term I would be looking at envoy and not some open core crap where they can rug pull you at any moment.
- LtdJorge 1y ago
  Traefik is proper OSS tho, not Open Core
  - __turbobrew__ 1y ago
    Is it? Features are blocked behind a subscription: https://traefik.io/solutions/kubernetes-ingress https://traefik.io/solutions/kubernetes-ingress
- FridgeSeal 1y ago
  A whole bunch of the other ingress/k8s gateway offering also just…wrap envoy, so you may as well just use envoy directly these days. Especially given that configuring it, wasn’t any worse than configuring a wrapper with the additional benefit of not having anything between you and envoy to get in the way.
- tecleandor 1y ago
  Is envoy usable outside containers? For example, with VMs.
  - gaanbal 1y ago
    I primarily use it outside containers on EC2, works exactly the same as it does in a container
    - tecleandor 1y ago
      Thanks! Some similar proxy projects (can't remember which ones by memory) have migrated or pivoted to be Kubernetes or containers only.
aranelsurion 1y ago
Honorable mention in the API Gateway space: https://gateway.envoyproxy.io/ https://gateway.envoyproxy.io/
jfadfwddas 1y ago
Architecture is also different. Thread-per-core (no garbage collector) vs work-stealing with garbage collection cycles.

__turbobrew__ 1y ago

Yea, envoy is the premier open source (not open core+ paid features) proxy right now in my opinion. Modern, well supported, big community, reliable. If I was making a bet long term I would be looking at envoy and not some open core crap where they can rug pull you at any moment.

LtdJorge 1y ago
Traefik is proper OSS tho, not Open Core
- __turbobrew__ 1y ago
  Is it? Features are blocked behind a subscription: https://traefik.io/solutions/kubernetes-ingress https://traefik.io/solutions/kubernetes-ingress
FridgeSeal 1y ago
A whole bunch of the other ingress/k8s gateway offering also just…wrap envoy, so you may as well just use envoy directly these days. Especially given that configuring it, wasn’t any worse than configuring a wrapper with the additional benefit of not having anything between you and envoy to get in the way.
tecleandor 1y ago
Is envoy usable outside containers? For example, with VMs.
- gaanbal 1y ago
  I primarily use it outside containers on EC2, works exactly the same as it does in a container
  - tecleandor 1y ago
    Thanks! Some similar proxy projects (can't remember which ones by memory) have migrated or pivoted to be Kubernetes or containers only.

aranelsurion 1y ago

Honorable mention in the API Gateway space: https://gateway.envoyproxy.io/ https://gateway.envoyproxy.io/

jfadfwddas 1y ago

Architecture is also different. Thread-per-core (no garbage collector) vs work-stealing with garbage collection cycles.