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> [in Gnome] if you have a full screen app on your main screen you can't even see what time it is. I know in FOSS there's a ton of enthusiastic and just non pr

by j1elo 1y ago

> [in Gnome] if you have a full screen app on your main screen you can't even see what time it is. I know in FOSS there's a ton of enthusiastic and just non professional work (nor there should be expectations of it), but still... I'd hope the user-facing interface for an OS (or any UI, really) should be designed by people with a background on design, which doesn't seem to be the case at all with this idea. It's another example of why most of us developers should not be even touching the world of laying stuff out visually :)

deaddodo 1y ago
The truth is that the GNOME community probably has the most designers and UX-focused members in its community. The problem isn’t lack of designers.
- ChocolateGod 1y ago
  For all the hate it receives, Libadwaita is one of the nicest designed toolkits currently in-use that has more than a dozen applications using it. Having an entire CSS engine at their disposal certainly does help the designers design without needing to know programming.
- j1elo 1y ago
  That surprises me. What kind of decision process ends up choosing to hide the primary clock in a desktop OS. It's funny imagine the meeting, people voting "yes" to this. Not even in the tiny screens (by comparison) of phones this has been done (probably proposed somewhere sometime, but thankfully denied).
  - deaddodo 1y ago
    The problem isn’t enough designers, it’s too many. There are conflicting design goals throughout the UI. All could be good/great with a cohesive system, but there is none. To answer your question, the same people that wanted the system to be a Tier 1 mobile/tablet UI.
- ankurdhama 1y ago
  You mean the designers who did something like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/1nrcvok/i_dont_see_the_point_of_this_feature_can_someone/ https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/1nrcvok/i_dont_see_t...
  - deaddodo 1y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45391654 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45391654

by j1elo 1y ago

deaddodo 1y ago

The truth is that the GNOME community probably has the most designers and UX-focused members in its community. The problem isn’t lack of designers.

ChocolateGod 1y ago
For all the hate it receives, Libadwaita is one of the nicest designed toolkits currently in-use that has more than a dozen applications using it. Having an entire CSS engine at their disposal certainly does help the designers design without needing to know programming.
j1elo 1y ago
That surprises me. What kind of decision process ends up choosing to hide the primary clock in a desktop OS. It's funny imagine the meeting, people voting "yes" to this. Not even in the tiny screens (by comparison) of phones this has been done (probably proposed somewhere sometime, but thankfully denied).
- deaddodo 1y ago
  The problem isn’t enough designers, it’s too many. There are conflicting design goals throughout the UI. All could be good/great with a cohesive system, but there is none. To answer your question, the same people that wanted the system to be a Tier 1 mobile/tablet UI.
ankurdhama 1y ago
You mean the designers who did something like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/1nrcvok/i_dont_see_the_point_of_this_feature_can_someone/ https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/1nrcvok/i_dont_see_t...
- deaddodo 1y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45391654 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45391654