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> Dragging and Dropping files from Wayland apps to X11 apps is not currently supported. I assume that this is a Wayland/X11 limitation. How is Linux supposed

> Dragging and Dropping files from Wayland apps to X11 apps is not currently supported. I assume that this is a Wayland/X11 limitation. How is Linux supposed to beat Windows if the desktop is so broken? Microsoft breaking their Windows 11 desktop more and more seems to be the only hope.

heavyset_go 1y ago
Works in KDE just fine
- phendrenad2 1y ago
  Which implies that it's one of those things that DEs need to provide. So to answer OP's question, the answer is: With lots of custom, non-standard code. And who knows, if the world continues in this X11/Wayland duopoly, maybe one interop API will become standardized.
  - heavyset_go 1y ago
    It's a thing that the Wayland API handles with portals. Some compositors implement more features than others, and kwin_wayland in my opinion, is one of the better implementations. Your interpretation is off.
array_key_first 1y ago
The desktop is literally not broken at all. This is already standardized, there's already multiple implementations, and it works in all major desktop environments. This is a brand new DE that just got out of alpha. Its not gonna implement all protocols, because duh. Let's not be melodramatic. This happens literally every time something new happens on Linux. "Oh it's so fucked and broken and Linux sucks!!" Okay, it's new. There are mature options. Use a mature option. This is how things have always worked for all ecosystems.
- pathartl 1y ago
  The fragmentation is a huge reason the desktop experience is broken. The only UI that's actually consistent across all distros and works pretty damn well is the TUI.
  - reppap 1y ago
    I've been daily driving Gnome on Fedora for years and literally nothing about it is broken. We're having very different experiences.
    - doubled112 1y ago
      In GNOME, can you drag and drop from the archive manager into your file manager yet?
  - array_key_first 1y ago
    Its not fragmentation, you (and others) just do not grasp the very basics of Linux. Its open source. We will never, and I mean never, have one desktop to rule them all. That's impossible. Not improbable, impossible. You just can't make that happen on Linux. What you want is a closed-down ecosystem in which one actor controls it with an iron fist. Which is fine - more power. But we already have that. That's windows and mac os. If Linux tried that, it would destroy it.
ok123456 1y ago
This is solved by using X11.

heavyset_go 1y ago

Works in KDE just fine

phendrenad2 1y ago
Which implies that it's one of those things that DEs need to provide. So to answer OP's question, the answer is: With lots of custom, non-standard code. And who knows, if the world continues in this X11/Wayland duopoly, maybe one interop API will become standardized.
- heavyset_go 1y ago
  It's a thing that the Wayland API handles with portals. Some compositors implement more features than others, and kwin_wayland in my opinion, is one of the better implementations. Your interpretation is off.

array_key_first 1y ago

The desktop is literally not broken at all. This is already standardized, there's already multiple implementations, and it works in all major desktop environments. This is a brand new DE that just got out of alpha. Its not gonna implement all protocols, because duh. Let's not be melodramatic. This happens literally every time something new happens on Linux. "Oh it's so fucked and broken and Linux sucks!!" Okay, it's new. There are mature options. Use a mature option. This is how things have always worked for all ecosystems.

pathartl 1y ago
The fragmentation is a huge reason the desktop experience is broken. The only UI that's actually consistent across all distros and works pretty damn well is the TUI.
- reppap 1y ago
  I've been daily driving Gnome on Fedora for years and literally nothing about it is broken. We're having very different experiences.
  - doubled112 1y ago
    In GNOME, can you drag and drop from the archive manager into your file manager yet?
- array_key_first 1y ago
  Its not fragmentation, you (and others) just do not grasp the very basics of Linux. Its open source. We will never, and I mean never, have one desktop to rule them all. That's impossible. Not improbable, impossible. You just can't make that happen on Linux. What you want is a closed-down ecosystem in which one actor controls it with an iron fist. Which is fine - more power. But we already have that. That's windows and mac os. If Linux tried that, it would destroy it.

ok123456 1y ago

This is solved by using X11.