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Instead of wading into the partisan morass of the current topic, perhaps we could reflect upon this parallel: https://ccrjustice.org/ccrs-assessment-obama-admi

Instead of wading into the partisan morass of the current topic, perhaps we could reflect upon this parallel: https://ccrjustice.org/ccrs-assessment-obama-administrations-record https://ccrjustice.org/ccrs-assessment-obama-administrations... >Despite the fact that the prosecution of officials responsible for serious human rights abuses is required under both domestic and international law, President Obama has repeatedly indicated his reluctance to pursue prosecutions for these crimes, saying that he prefers to look forward rather than backward. >In August, the Obama administration announced new transfer policy recommendations that endorse the continued practice of rendition: the forced transfer of a person to another country to be detained, interrogated and possibly tortured.

cosmicgadget 1y ago
That might be better suited for a post on that topic?
- mac-attack 1y ago
  When what-aboutism is the hammer, everything looks like a nail
Moomoomoo309 1y ago
This isn't really a great parallel - Trump feels he himself was slighted, Obama chose not to go after the crimes of his predecessors' officers. A better parallel to what you posted is ICE relocating "illegal immigrants" (some of which are, some of which got denaturalized, some of which were just in the wrong place at the wrong time) into countries they've never been to and imprisoning them and torturing them. I'm not sure how this parallels what is clearly Trump going after his sworn enemies, as he has said he would do time and time again.
- palmfacehn 1y ago
  >Instead of wading in... I regard it as important context. Yes, the country seems to be devolving into partisan recrimination. Similarly the comments... However, there was a time when obvious crimes like torture and false pretenses for war were excused in the name of decorum. Whether Comey is guilty or not, whether the Russia Hoax was criminal or not, it is easy to see how the proceedings are becoming untenable. But then, was a system that excused torture and false pretenses for war on a sound footing to begin with? Something is rotten on the Potomac. The narrow partisan takes supporting or reacting with outrage to their opponent's weaponization of the judicial system seem irrelevant in comparison. There's a larger picture worth looking at if we can expand beyond the narrow view.
sigwinch 1y ago
Everything the Center for Constitutional Rights is doing lately is far more important.

cosmicgadget 1y ago

That might be better suited for a post on that topic?

mac-attack 1y ago
When what-aboutism is the hammer, everything looks like a nail

Moomoomoo309 1y ago

This isn't really a great parallel - Trump feels he himself was slighted, Obama chose not to go after the crimes of his predecessors' officers. A better parallel to what you posted is ICE relocating "illegal immigrants" (some of which are, some of which got denaturalized, some of which were just in the wrong place at the wrong time) into countries they've never been to and imprisoning them and torturing them. I'm not sure how this parallels what is clearly Trump going after his sworn enemies, as he has said he would do time and time again.

palmfacehn 1y ago
>Instead of wading in... I regard it as important context. Yes, the country seems to be devolving into partisan recrimination. Similarly the comments... However, there was a time when obvious crimes like torture and false pretenses for war were excused in the name of decorum. Whether Comey is guilty or not, whether the Russia Hoax was criminal or not, it is easy to see how the proceedings are becoming untenable. But then, was a system that excused torture and false pretenses for war on a sound footing to begin with? Something is rotten on the Potomac. The narrow partisan takes supporting or reacting with outrage to their opponent's weaponization of the judicial system seem irrelevant in comparison. There's a larger picture worth looking at if we can expand beyond the narrow view.

sigwinch 1y ago

Everything the Center for Constitutional Rights is doing lately is far more important.