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>> Currently it's up to Cloudflare to decide whether you will read that article or not. How is Cloudflare gatekeeping things? I believe you but don't understan

>> Currently it's up to Cloudflare to decide whether you will read that article or not. How is Cloudflare gatekeeping things? I believe you but don't understand the mechanism.

nemomarx 1y ago
Cloudflare sends certain users they think are bots into infinite captcha loops - the wrong user agent or tor endpoint can do it
- osigurdson 1y ago
  I assume this is only on sites that are on Cloudflare though. Or, no?
  - selfhoster11 1y ago
    True, but a lot of sites use Cloudflare. It's sometimes very unexpected sites as well, both very large ones and very small ones.
- arevno 1y ago
  Yes, it's unfortunate that a network service provider whose primary business model is checks notes preventing network abuse would try to detect and prevent abuse via various heuristics such as captchas. I also agree that Cloudflare should get all the blame here, since none of their customers voluntarily chose to use them, and Cloudflare doesn't give their customers a huge variety of options for bot detection sensitivity. Matt Prince personally kidnaps CTOs and waterboards them until they agree to use Cloudflare, and the thousands of configuration options and rule combinations on the WAF are just for show - customers can't actually use them. What an evil, evil company.
  - GoblinSlayer 1y ago
    It's the same people who believe software has no settings.
small_scombrus 1y ago
The realistic right now worry is that you'll fall afoul of Cloudflare's bot checking and they just won't connect you through to your destination. The potential future worry would be if cloudflare decide they don't like the article or you for some other reason, they can refuse to connect you. These do both rely on your traffic being routed through Cloudflare's servers, but a LOT of traffic is
egorfine 1y ago
You have never been banned by Cloudflare because of the wrong shape of your skull? You must be living in the US probably.

>> Currently it's up to Cloudflare to decide whether you will read that article or not. How is Cloudflare gatekeeping things? I believe you but don't understand the mechanism.

nemomarx 1y ago

Cloudflare sends certain users they think are bots into infinite captcha loops - the wrong user agent or tor endpoint can do it

osigurdson 1y ago
I assume this is only on sites that are on Cloudflare though. Or, no?
- selfhoster11 1y ago
  True, but a lot of sites use Cloudflare. It's sometimes very unexpected sites as well, both very large ones and very small ones.
arevno 1y ago
Yes, it's unfortunate that a network service provider whose primary business model is checks notes preventing network abuse would try to detect and prevent abuse via various heuristics such as captchas. I also agree that Cloudflare should get all the blame here, since none of their customers voluntarily chose to use them, and Cloudflare doesn't give their customers a huge variety of options for bot detection sensitivity. Matt Prince personally kidnaps CTOs and waterboards them until they agree to use Cloudflare, and the thousands of configuration options and rule combinations on the WAF are just for show - customers can't actually use them. What an evil, evil company.
- GoblinSlayer 1y ago
  It's the same people who believe software has no settings.

small_scombrus 1y ago

The realistic right now worry is that you'll fall afoul of Cloudflare's bot checking and they just won't connect you through to your destination. The potential future worry would be if cloudflare decide they don't like the article or you for some other reason, they can refuse to connect you. These do both rely on your traffic being routed through Cloudflare's servers, but a LOT of traffic is

egorfine 1y ago

You have never been banned by Cloudflare because of the wrong shape of your skull? You must be living in the US probably.