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Huh... Finland is #1 in happiness but has the third highest suicide rate in Western Europe (behind Belgium, France, and Switzerland) [1]. Belgium is medium happ

Huh... Finland is #1 in happiness but has the third highest suicide rate in Western Europe (behind Belgium, France, and Switzerland) [1]. Belgium is medium happy, but has the 15th highest suicide rate in the world, substantially above the US. The UK is second lowest happiness, but has one of the lowest suicide rates in Europe. The difference in happiness between Finland and the US appears huge, yet their suicide rates are similar (Finland is next after the US of the countries on the happiness list) Suicide rates aren't everything, but they are certainly telling a very different story. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_r...

otabdeveloper4 1y ago
The science has spoken: the only way to be happy in Western society is to kill yourself.
- mothballed 1y ago
  Well Mexico seems to be quite happy and with not a lot of suicide, but they have incredibly cheap recreational drugs and it's quite accessible and not particularly frowned upon to enjoy a putería on the reg and on the side. Coincidence? I think not.
  - nurettin 1y ago
    Destroying your brain and pumping crime shouldn't be the solution to suicide.
- Hamuko 1y ago
  Then why is US so low in happiness even though it's leading in suicides?
  - otabdeveloper4 1y ago
    Maybe the US is not a Western nation then.
autumnstwilight 1y ago
I vaguely recall reading before that happiest countries had increased suicide rates because if everyone around you is doing great and you're not, it increases feelings of shame and hopelessness, that there's something wrong or broken with you specifically. If life is tough and everyone is struggling, it sucks but feels less personally damning. Anecdotally, the most depressed times in my life were when circumstances were objectively fine and I still couldn't manage to feel any less than terrible. Like, "This is as good as it's ever going to get???" Ironically having actual problems gave me both something to attribute the bad feelings to, and hope that I would feel better once I resolved the problems.
- AlecSchueler 1y ago
  Also if everyone who becomes depressed quickly dies then they don't contribute to the depression statistics.
PicassoCTs 1y ago
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otabdeveloper4 1y ago

The science has spoken: the only way to be happy in Western society is to kill yourself.

mothballed 1y ago
Well Mexico seems to be quite happy and with not a lot of suicide, but they have incredibly cheap recreational drugs and it's quite accessible and not particularly frowned upon to enjoy a putería on the reg and on the side. Coincidence? I think not.
- nurettin 1y ago
  Destroying your brain and pumping crime shouldn't be the solution to suicide.
Hamuko 1y ago
Then why is US so low in happiness even though it's leading in suicides?
- otabdeveloper4 1y ago
  Maybe the US is not a Western nation then.

autumnstwilight 1y ago

I vaguely recall reading before that happiest countries had increased suicide rates because if everyone around you is doing great and you're not, it increases feelings of shame and hopelessness, that there's something wrong or broken with you specifically. If life is tough and everyone is struggling, it sucks but feels less personally damning. Anecdotally, the most depressed times in my life were when circumstances were objectively fine and I still couldn't manage to feel any less than terrible. Like, "This is as good as it's ever going to get???" Ironically having actual problems gave me both something to attribute the bad feelings to, and hope that I would feel better once I resolved the problems.

AlecSchueler 1y ago
Also if everyone who becomes depressed quickly dies then they don't contribute to the depression statistics.

PicassoCTs 1y ago

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