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I think they're trying to address your concern by pointing out how their Droids are different >Every AI coding platform forces you to choose: one IDE, one LLM,

I think they're trying to address your concern by pointing out how their Droids are different >Every AI coding platform forces you to choose: one IDE, one LLM, one agent, one interface. Subscribing and unsubscribing from plans to try and stay at the cutting edge is now obsolete. Developers deserve a choice. Factory is giving choice back to developers. Droids work with any LLM, in any IDE, in local or remote, and in any interface. You can delegate tasks to Droids from your Terminal, your IDE, Slack, Linear, or on the web. For further customization, you can use headless mode to set up scripts or triggers to run Droids tailored to your team's workflow. The Factory.ai Droid does rank well in the terminal-bench leaderboard (currently 3 of the top 5)

kristianc 1y ago
Except that's not how humans work. No one is itching to try Gemini 2.5 Flash when Opus 4 is on the table. They will go to wherever they can get the best model, driving whoever is crazy enough to offer for them for 20/mo almost immediately out of business. There's no flat pricing model that can sustain what developers try to throw at it.
- leakycap 1y ago
  > Except that's not how humans work. No one is itching to try Gemini 2.5 Flash when Opus 4 is on the table. You're welcome to speak for yourself and your use cases, but speaking for all humankind seems a bit much.
  - kristianc 1y ago
    Whenever a new frontier model is released, 99% off the demand shifts immediately to that model. The price of the most demanded model has remained roughly constant even as prices for legacy models decay. https://ethanding.substack.com/p/ai-subscriptions-get-short-squeezed https://ethanding.substack.com/p/ai-subscriptions-get-short-...
    - leakycap 1y ago
      An ice cream shop just opened a few blocks from my house. For weeks, they've had a line of dozens even at 9pm when I drive by. I don't think that "everyone likes trying new things when they first become available" is unique to AI. Even ice cream stores have this effect, so I'm not sure if you just discount everything new or aren't familiar with this general phenomenon.
      - kristianc 1y ago
        Right, and new ice cream shops keep opening up all the time, and people are switching to the new one almost as soon as it becomes available.
        leakycap 1y ago
        Weird how the old ice cream shops still exist, even when the market magically produces hustle-and-bustle for the newest shops temporarily when they open Almost like demand and markets can change/grow in response to what is offered Human nature is to buzz around anything new more than stuff we already know, and of course that dynamic will surround new and exciting things Like cutting edge AI
      - solsane 1y ago
        In terms of what model I use it’s going to be latest and greatest out of whatever my org gives me enterprise access to. I’d probably try the factory ‘droid’ first, but if it fails to solve a problem and swapping to another one means it solves it, I’ll probably never use the factory one again. I’d consider this pretty normal as we’re moving closer to ‘this is actually a mature stack that devs use for work’. Very few people in my company actually take interest in their development tooling and use whatever came pre-configured. (our stack is not sexy) (Let me know if I’m incorrectly conflating the ‘droid’ concept with foundation models)

kristianc 1y ago

Except that's not how humans work. No one is itching to try Gemini 2.5 Flash when Opus 4 is on the table. They will go to wherever they can get the best model, driving whoever is crazy enough to offer for them for 20/mo almost immediately out of business. There's no flat pricing model that can sustain what developers try to throw at it.

leakycap 1y ago
> Except that's not how humans work. No one is itching to try Gemini 2.5 Flash when Opus 4 is on the table. You're welcome to speak for yourself and your use cases, but speaking for all humankind seems a bit much.
- kristianc 1y ago
  Whenever a new frontier model is released, 99% off the demand shifts immediately to that model. The price of the most demanded model has remained roughly constant even as prices for legacy models decay. https://ethanding.substack.com/p/ai-subscriptions-get-short-squeezed https://ethanding.substack.com/p/ai-subscriptions-get-short-...
  - leakycap 1y ago
    An ice cream shop just opened a few blocks from my house. For weeks, they've had a line of dozens even at 9pm when I drive by. I don't think that "everyone likes trying new things when they first become available" is unique to AI. Even ice cream stores have this effect, so I'm not sure if you just discount everything new or aren't familiar with this general phenomenon.
    - kristianc 1y ago
      Right, and new ice cream shops keep opening up all the time, and people are switching to the new one almost as soon as it becomes available.
      - leakycap 1y ago
        Weird how the old ice cream shops still exist, even when the market magically produces hustle-and-bustle for the newest shops temporarily when they open Almost like demand and markets can change/grow in response to what is offered Human nature is to buzz around anything new more than stuff we already know, and of course that dynamic will surround new and exciting things Like cutting edge AI
    - solsane 1y ago
      In terms of what model I use it’s going to be latest and greatest out of whatever my org gives me enterprise access to. I’d probably try the factory ‘droid’ first, but if it fails to solve a problem and swapping to another one means it solves it, I’ll probably never use the factory one again. I’d consider this pretty normal as we’re moving closer to ‘this is actually a mature stack that devs use for work’. Very few people in my company actually take interest in their development tooling and use whatever came pre-configured. (our stack is not sexy) (Let me know if I’m incorrectly conflating the ‘droid’ concept with foundation models)