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Why does your submission get to the front page with 2 points, while mine[1] doesn't (mine also has 2 points and was submitted earlier)? [1] http://news.ycombin

by Toshio 14y ago

Why does your submission get to the front page with 2 points, while mine[1] doesn't (mine also has 2 points and was submitted earlier)? [1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4537519 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4537519

Permit 14y ago
The longer a post has been around, the most points it requires to get to the front page. I believe this is still relevant: http://amix.dk/blog/post/19574 http://amix.dk/blog/post/19574 PG's post: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1781417 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1781417
crntaylor 14y ago
I expect it's just luck. I submitted the same story and it also sank. Sometimes the gods of HN are kind to you, and sometimes they're cruel. Don't sweat it!
lectrick 14y ago
Are you interested in spreading knowledge, or are you interested in karma? If the former, why do you give a shit?
- tych0 14y ago
  Perhaps he is interested in spreading knowledge. His post is basically identical to this one, but this one got selected. It's natural to want to understand why, rather than simply giving up. Indeed, if he comes to understand why, then knowledge has spread.
- lmm 14y ago
  Isn't the whole point of displaying your karma score the way this site does to make you care about it? I know it works on me. I don't write the best comments I could, I write the ones I know will be upvoted.
  - exolab 14y ago
    Shame on you.
    - lmm 14y ago
      Meh. The community gets what it deserves based on what it votes for.
      - gjm11 14y ago
        It is perfectly possible for both of the following to be true: (1) The community gets what it deserves. (2) Some of the people giving it what it deserves are behaving shamefully. (At least, it is if "gets what it deserves" means "gets something it's got no right to anything better than" rather than "gets exactly what, in some kind of best possible world, it would get".) Having said which, I don't think it's all that shameful to write what you think will get the most votes. But I'd rather you didn't.
    - liberatus 14y ago
      It's ironic. This is exactly the behavior that the system seems to want to avoid, but inevitably incentivizes. So shame on him? I don't know. Major props for being honest. One could argue you were subconsciously influenced toward posting a shaming comment because of the karma incentive. Of course, you may just be joking as well. It's certainly funny either way.
      - exolab 14y ago
        I don't really care about Karma on this site (mine or other people's). If I did I certainly would have checked this comment earlier ;) If people post for Karma instead of for content, IMHO it is their problem. It won't make the site much better, but it won't make it much worse, either. "Shame on you" was my way of saying "who cares?".
- eli_awry 14y ago
  Because the algorithms determining the content we consume are incredibly important in understanding the systematic biases of the information we internalize?

by Toshio 14y ago

Permit 14y ago

The longer a post has been around, the most points it requires to get to the front page. I believe this is still relevant: http://amix.dk/blog/post/19574 http://amix.dk/blog/post/19574 PG's post: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1781417 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1781417

crntaylor 14y ago

I expect it's just luck. I submitted the same story and it also sank. Sometimes the gods of HN are kind to you, and sometimes they're cruel. Don't sweat it!

lectrick 14y ago

Are you interested in spreading knowledge, or are you interested in karma? If the former, why do you give a shit?

tych0 14y ago
Perhaps he is interested in spreading knowledge. His post is basically identical to this one, but this one got selected. It's natural to want to understand why, rather than simply giving up. Indeed, if he comes to understand why, then knowledge has spread.
lmm 14y ago
Isn't the whole point of displaying your karma score the way this site does to make you care about it? I know it works on me. I don't write the best comments I could, I write the ones I know will be upvoted.
- exolab 14y ago
  Shame on you.
  - lmm 14y ago
    Meh. The community gets what it deserves based on what it votes for.
    - gjm11 14y ago
      It is perfectly possible for both of the following to be true: (1) The community gets what it deserves. (2) Some of the people giving it what it deserves are behaving shamefully. (At least, it is if "gets what it deserves" means "gets something it's got no right to anything better than" rather than "gets exactly what, in some kind of best possible world, it would get".) Having said which, I don't think it's all that shameful to write what you think will get the most votes. But I'd rather you didn't.
  - liberatus 14y ago
    It's ironic. This is exactly the behavior that the system seems to want to avoid, but inevitably incentivizes. So shame on him? I don't know. Major props for being honest. One could argue you were subconsciously influenced toward posting a shaming comment because of the karma incentive. Of course, you may just be joking as well. It's certainly funny either way.
    - exolab 14y ago
      I don't really care about Karma on this site (mine or other people's). If I did I certainly would have checked this comment earlier ;) If people post for Karma instead of for content, IMHO it is their problem. It won't make the site much better, but it won't make it much worse, either. "Shame on you" was my way of saying "who cares?".
eli_awry 14y ago
Because the algorithms determining the content we consume are incredibly important in understanding the systematic biases of the information we internalize?