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>25 people leaving is a sea change. 25 Academics leaving is not "sea change". >If you had tenure there (a big if, since the article is unclear), or even were
by constantcrying 1y ago
>25 people leaving is a sea change.
25 Academics leaving is not "sea change".
>If you had tenure there (a big if, since the article is unclear), or even were tenure track, that was viewed as one of the most prestigious and desirable jobs in the world.
Some very major ifs there.
- ricardobeat 1y agoFor numbers, it's nearly 1% of all post-docs (~3400) in those three universities, leaving at once, to a single destination. You can do the math. It's a fact that the USA used to attract this talent, not export it.
- constantcrying 1y agoAcademics have always been leaving the US, just like Academics have always been coming to the US. A turnover in staff is normal, it has happened everywhere, always. >It's a fact that the USA used to attract this talent, not export it. And where is the evidence that it does not? People leaving is normal. Post-docs leave institution's all the time. One additional thought. If you think this is about a right wing political shift in the US, why would these researcher go to one of the strongholds of the far right in Europe?
- ricardobeat 1y agoArticles like this are the evidence. The news is not the specific number, but the growing trend [1] of academics looking to leave the US due to turmoil, cancelled grants, visas and the general political climate. There are at least a half dozen other EU countries with right wing governments. Austria’s current chancellor is centre-right, and thank god most “far right” parties in Europe are still kilometers away from their US counterparts, and would not dare interfere in academia in any way similar to Trump’s doings. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y