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I know it's a defacto complaint to leverage against Electron apps, but memory usage notwithstanding, I've never run into much lag issue on any major Electron ap

I know it's a defacto complaint to leverage against Electron apps, but memory usage notwithstanding, I've never run into much lag issue on any major Electron app.

ToucanLoucan 1y ago
It depends. Numerous times when internet is spotty Slack and Discord both on different occasions have brought my systems to a halt until they can complete whatever task is stuck waiting (or I force close them). It's really fucking obnoxious that somehow a goddamn web app in a wrapper is managing to cause system wide hangs.
- Vilian 1y ago
  True, i'm gonna start limiting electron apps CPU and IO percentage to not halt everything
  - nsriv 1y ago
    I think that's probably a recipe to hit the limits more often and end up being more frustrating, depending on your hardware.
- 1718627440 1y ago
  Can't you interrupt them (aka SIGSTOP) instead? Then you could resume them, instead of reopening them and potentially using state.
arcfour 1y ago
Surely there is a more effective way to write an app than to bundle an entire end-of-life browser and Node.js runtime into a 600MB monstrosity.
- paxys 1y ago
  Electron apps don't have to be 600 MB. VS Code is an entire fully-featured IDE and is a 90 MB download.
  - shawn-butler 1y ago
    VS Code package in my applications folder is 600+ MB. The Electron Framework.framework it contains is 400+ MB alone. I don't understand where you come up with your 90 MB figure?
    - ethmarks 1y ago
      The VSCodeUserSetup file from https://code.visualstudio.com/download https://code.visualstudio.com/download is in the 90MB range. Perhaps this file is just the installer and the actual system files are much larger? Or maybe your 400MB figure comes from a bloated install? Just speculating here.
      - piperswe 1y ago
        Presumably the setup file is compressed, and the installation on disk isn't
      - the_lucifer 1y ago
        A compressed download is my guess. The easiest way to predict if an app is using Electron is to see if the download is around 90 to 130 MB. Especially if that size feels unreasonable for the functionality that it offers.
  - typpilol 1y ago
    My package app is 90mb
- hluska 1y ago
  Of course there is, but not every decision in computing is (or should be) about raw efficiency.

I know it's a defacto complaint to leverage against Electron apps, but memory usage notwithstanding, I've never run into much lag issue on any major Electron app.

ToucanLoucan 1y ago

It depends. Numerous times when internet is spotty Slack and Discord both on different occasions have brought my systems to a halt until they can complete whatever task is stuck waiting (or I force close them). It's really fucking obnoxious that somehow a goddamn web app in a wrapper is managing to cause system wide hangs.

Vilian 1y ago
True, i'm gonna start limiting electron apps CPU and IO percentage to not halt everything
- nsriv 1y ago
  I think that's probably a recipe to hit the limits more often and end up being more frustrating, depending on your hardware.
1718627440 1y ago
Can't you interrupt them (aka SIGSTOP) instead? Then you could resume them, instead of reopening them and potentially using state.

arcfour 1y ago

Surely there is a more effective way to write an app than to bundle an entire end-of-life browser and Node.js runtime into a 600MB monstrosity.

paxys 1y ago
Electron apps don't have to be 600 MB. VS Code is an entire fully-featured IDE and is a 90 MB download.
- shawn-butler 1y ago
  VS Code package in my applications folder is 600+ MB. The Electron Framework.framework it contains is 400+ MB alone. I don't understand where you come up with your 90 MB figure?
  - ethmarks 1y ago
    The VSCodeUserSetup file from https://code.visualstudio.com/download https://code.visualstudio.com/download is in the 90MB range. Perhaps this file is just the installer and the actual system files are much larger? Or maybe your 400MB figure comes from a bloated install? Just speculating here.
    - piperswe 1y ago
      Presumably the setup file is compressed, and the installation on disk isn't
    - the_lucifer 1y ago
      A compressed download is my guess. The easiest way to predict if an app is using Electron is to see if the download is around 90 to 130 MB. Especially if that size feels unreasonable for the functionality that it offers.
- typpilol 1y ago
  My package app is 90mb
hluska 1y ago
Of course there is, but not every decision in computing is (or should be) about raw efficiency.