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There have been public reports by major news organizations on the subject of Israel using big tech companies to surveil the West Bank and Gaza, for a decade. Th

There have been public reports by major news organizations on the subject of Israel using big tech companies to surveil the West Bank and Gaza, for a decade. This isn't an issue of customer privacy.

meowface 1y ago
The difference is that pre-2023 it could at least have some plausible excuse of trying to detect terrorist activity. With Israel's current actions in Gaza, there is no longer any plausible excuse or defense for any security action Israel is conducting towards Palestinians.
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- Aarostotle 1y ago
  Did something happen in 2023 that makes it _less_ relevant for Israel to try to prevent terrorist activity?
  - kelipso 1y ago
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    - dotancohen 1y ago
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      - fahhem 1y ago
        Same bogus website used earlier. Please don't copy pasta bad hasbara
        dotancohen 1y ago
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        SilverElfin 1y ago
        Dismissing something as a “bogus website” or attacking the source isn’t an argument. It’s a logical fallacy.
        fahhem 1y ago
        It was debunked in another comment so I didn't copy paste the debunking, sorry
    - fortran77 1y ago
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      - kelipso 1y ago
        You’re the one openly promoting genocide.
  - meowface 1y ago
    Israel has a legitimate reason to want to try to intercept and detect terrorist activity, but given what they've been doing in Gaza for the past year and a half, they simply can't be trusted. They've lost all credibility and benefit of the doubt. So they can't expect other entities to help them do something they say is legitimate, because no one can trust them to do something in a legitimate and ethical way.
    - dotancohen 1y ago
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      - meowface 1y ago
        At some point, when basically the entire world is saying one thing and only two countries (the US & Israel) are saying the opposite, you really need something strong to convince someone that basically the whole world is wrong. This is some lame right-wing outlet whose front page contains things like: >The assessment, shared exclusively with the Free Beacon, follows mainstream media claims that cuts to global health funding will endanger life-saving programs While not mentioning that, yes, the Trump administration's USAID cuts absolutely will kill millions of people. The rest is shitting on Democrats and supporting Trump. Obviously some right-wing site is going to say whatever they can think of to try to defend Israel's actions.
        dotancohen 1y ago
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        SilverElfin 1y ago
        I wouldn’t have believed this until a few weeks ago. I then stated finding a lot of social media posts where people at pro-Palestine / anti-Israel protests talk about their goals, and many of them flat out say it is to bring down America and end its “empire”. They seem to use the same phrases in talking about this - I wonder if they get a script to use from the nonprofits they are a part of.

There have been public reports by major news organizations on the subject of Israel using big tech companies to surveil the West Bank and Gaza, for a decade. This isn't an issue of customer privacy.

meowface 1y ago

The difference is that pre-2023 it could at least have some plausible excuse of trying to detect terrorist activity. With Israel's current actions in Gaza, there is no longer any plausible excuse or defense for any security action Israel is conducting towards Palestinians.

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Aarostotle 1y ago
Did something happen in 2023 that makes it _less_ relevant for Israel to try to prevent terrorist activity?
- kelipso 1y ago
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  - dotancohen 1y ago
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    - fahhem 1y ago
      Same bogus website used earlier. Please don't copy pasta bad hasbara
      - dotancohen 1y ago
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      - SilverElfin 1y ago
        Dismissing something as a “bogus website” or attacking the source isn’t an argument. It’s a logical fallacy.
        fahhem 1y ago
        It was debunked in another comment so I didn't copy paste the debunking, sorry
  - fortran77 1y ago
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    - kelipso 1y ago
      You’re the one openly promoting genocide.
- meowface 1y ago
  Israel has a legitimate reason to want to try to intercept and detect terrorist activity, but given what they've been doing in Gaza for the past year and a half, they simply can't be trusted. They've lost all credibility and benefit of the doubt. So they can't expect other entities to help them do something they say is legitimate, because no one can trust them to do something in a legitimate and ethical way.
  - dotancohen 1y ago
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    - meowface 1y ago
      At some point, when basically the entire world is saying one thing and only two countries (the US & Israel) are saying the opposite, you really need something strong to convince someone that basically the whole world is wrong. This is some lame right-wing outlet whose front page contains things like: >The assessment, shared exclusively with the Free Beacon, follows mainstream media claims that cuts to global health funding will endanger life-saving programs While not mentioning that, yes, the Trump administration's USAID cuts absolutely will kill millions of people. The rest is shitting on Democrats and supporting Trump. Obviously some right-wing site is going to say whatever they can think of to try to defend Israel's actions.
      - dotancohen 1y ago
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        SilverElfin 1y ago
        I wouldn’t have believed this until a few weeks ago. I then stated finding a lot of social media posts where people at pro-Palestine / anti-Israel protests talk about their goals, and many of them flat out say it is to bring down America and end its “empire”. They seem to use the same phrases in talking about this - I wonder if they get a script to use from the nonprofits they are a part of.