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Too bad Mozilla basically dropped Servo. It would be nice if some other sponsor would be found to pick it up and regain momentum. Personally, I would like to se

Too bad Mozilla basically dropped Servo. It would be nice if some other sponsor would be found to pick it up and regain momentum. Personally, I would like to see Brave being more involved, that could steer the whole project in the right direction.

saghm 1y ago
It would have been nice for Mozilla to stick with it, but on the other hand, my understanding is that Servo originally was more of a proving ground for feature that would incrementally get ported over to Firefox itself (some of which did land, like webrender and I think the CSS processing). It's disappointing that Mozilla wasn't more interested in investing in their long-term browser improvements, but given the level of concern that seems to be growing in recent years around their direction, maybe in the long run having a new browser come along and utilize it would end up being better for everyone. If we're lucky, maybe in a few decades we'll be having debates about whether to call something "Servo/NewFancyBrowser" or just "NewFancyBrowser" as a fresher alternative to the whole "GNU/Linux" versus "Linux" thing.
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simonw 1y ago
Servo is heavily sponsored by Igalia these days, who pay several full-time developers to work on the project. https://servo.org/blog/2025/01/31/servo-in-2024/ https://servo.org/blog/2025/01/31/servo-in-2024/ shows that 26% of the PRs in 2024 were made by Igalia. Here's a good post explaining the relationship in more detail: https://blogs.igalia.com/mrego/servo-revival-2023-2024/ https://blogs.igalia.com/mrego/servo-revival-2023-2024/ It says "Things changed in 2023, when Igalia got external funding to work on Servo and get the project moving again" but doesn't name the source of the funding. It might be the NLnet Foundation - https://nlnet.nl/project/Servo/ https://nlnet.nl/project/Servo/ - but I couldn't find information on the amount of that grant. https://nlnet.nl/project/Servo/ https://nlnet.nl/project/Servo/
- nicoburns 1y ago
  > doesn't name the source of the funding It was Futurewei for a couple of years, and is now Huawei. There is also some NLnet funding (not sure if Igalia has any, but some other people certainly do). Servo also recently approved funding for one additional (non-igalia) person funded by community donations, which is pretty cool
- Degenerative 1y ago
  External Funding from V.
  - pityJuke 1y ago
    Based on your post history, "V" is for "Valve", correct?

saghm 1y ago

It would have been nice for Mozilla to stick with it, but on the other hand, my understanding is that Servo originally was more of a proving ground for feature that would incrementally get ported over to Firefox itself (some of which did land, like webrender and I think the CSS processing). It's disappointing that Mozilla wasn't more interested in investing in their long-term browser improvements, but given the level of concern that seems to be growing in recent years around their direction, maybe in the long run having a new browser come along and utilize it would end up being better for everyone. If we're lucky, maybe in a few decades we'll be having debates about whether to call something "Servo/NewFancyBrowser" or just "NewFancyBrowser" as a fresher alternative to the whole "GNU/Linux" versus "Linux" thing.

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simonw 1y ago

Servo is heavily sponsored by Igalia these days, who pay several full-time developers to work on the project. https://servo.org/blog/2025/01/31/servo-in-2024/ https://servo.org/blog/2025/01/31/servo-in-2024/ shows that 26% of the PRs in 2024 were made by Igalia. Here's a good post explaining the relationship in more detail: https://blogs.igalia.com/mrego/servo-revival-2023-2024/ https://blogs.igalia.com/mrego/servo-revival-2023-2024/ It says "Things changed in 2023, when Igalia got external funding to work on Servo and get the project moving again" but doesn't name the source of the funding. It might be the NLnet Foundation - https://nlnet.nl/project/Servo/ https://nlnet.nl/project/Servo/ - but I couldn't find information on the amount of that grant. https://nlnet.nl/project/Servo/ https://nlnet.nl/project/Servo/

nicoburns 1y ago
> doesn't name the source of the funding It was Futurewei for a couple of years, and is now Huawei. There is also some NLnet funding (not sure if Igalia has any, but some other people certainly do). Servo also recently approved funding for one additional (non-igalia) person funded by community donations, which is pretty cool
Degenerative 1y ago
External Funding from V.
- pityJuke 1y ago
  Based on your post history, "V" is for "Valve", correct?