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You just contrived your sob story to falsely fit a narrative I didn't portray. Cancer isn't considered an STD and it's not the flu, and your wife was victimize

You just contrived your sob story to falsely fit a narrative I didn't portray. Cancer isn't considered an STD and it's not the flu, and your wife was victimized by the very people I'm describing that wasted ER resources.

cogman10 1y ago
Yeah, no way you can face that your terrible attitude has almost certainly hurt people like my wife. That's never your fault is it. The story isn't contrived or a sob story. We are in the middle of immuno and chemo therapies. You asked why I'm hostile, that's why and it's the truth.
- mothballed 1y ago
  You called me a liar, how's it feal? >Yeah, no way you can face that your terrible attitude has almost certainly hurt people like my wife Lol, go work in an ER then and put your money where your mouth is. Show everyone how you're better. Pretty soon you'll know the truth too. No one is angry about someone with a fucking doctor referral showing up to the ER and then being found to have cancer using resources for that and it's "contrived" to try and fit that into the bucket I portrayed.
  - cogman10 1y ago
    > You called me a liar No, I didn't you snowflake. I said what you said isn't the truth, that doesn't make you a liar. People say false things all the time without lying. You can deeply hold incorrect beliefs, that doesn't make you a liar. But it's telling that that little pushback has your feelings hurt.
    - mothballed 1y ago
      I don't know what to say, your wife was victimized by the very people I describe, and the main takeaway is we will attack the messenger for saying it in a way they didn't like. I'm advocating to improve things for people like your wife, but we don't like to hear "hoodrat" or something like that we'd rather not hear it because we have this magical belief that people will get worse health care if some people are accurately called hoodrats. Maybe I didn't say things in a politically correct way, hopefully someone will come along and package it in a very delicate way for gentle sensibilities that won't be so triggering.
      - KittenInABox 1y ago
        Dude, you're the one who used your subjective negative experiences and made them so broad as to encompass a woman with cancer. Someone might've given you a bad experience but you're the one who took that and decided to broaden the category as everyone who uses an emergency room. This reads like maybe you had a traumatized experience and are acting extremely traumatized about it (like if a man punched me in the face and I declared all men to be face-punchers. My nose is broken but not all men broke it.).
        mothballed 1y ago
        They didn't encompass a woman with cancer, they encompassed the people that degraded her care. A commenter literally used his cancer-ridden wife as bait to support his false argument, which I find to be way more abhorrent than whatever it is you think I said. Y'all are using the whole cancer excuse, which isn't the flu nor considered an STD, because you know anyone with cancer automatically wins the argument because how can you argue against a spouse of a metastatic cancer patient. It's the debate equivalent of bringing a bunch of little kids in casts from a school shooting to a gun control debate. If the kid speaks up, it doesn't matter what you say, if you discount their opinion you lose, all you can do is nod and say thank you for sharing your experience. Welp, we're on the internet here, and I have no "face" to lose. So I'm willing to get banned from HN or face unpopular opinion if it means telling the realities of the situation and not having my opinion shouted down "because of my wife with cancer" trump card. I'm not willing to just nod, I don't give a fuck if he extends the story to 3 kids with leukemia and his arthritic dog.
        KittenInABox 1y ago
        Bro now you're assuming a guy is baiting you when, as far as I can see, he was just protesting his wife being in the category of what you called "hood rats". You're the one that extrapolated your bad experience to all patients in the ER, btw, not the "hood rats" you were forced to deal with. This is such an emotional overreaction I think you probably went through some shit and can't see how damaged you've become as a result. You can't even see a man who loves his genuinely suffering wife as anything more than a cheap shot to win an argument. I'm sorry for what it's worth.

cogman10 1y ago

Yeah, no way you can face that your terrible attitude has almost certainly hurt people like my wife. That's never your fault is it. The story isn't contrived or a sob story. We are in the middle of immuno and chemo therapies. You asked why I'm hostile, that's why and it's the truth.

mothballed 1y ago
You called me a liar, how's it feal? >Yeah, no way you can face that your terrible attitude has almost certainly hurt people like my wife Lol, go work in an ER then and put your money where your mouth is. Show everyone how you're better. Pretty soon you'll know the truth too. No one is angry about someone with a fucking doctor referral showing up to the ER and then being found to have cancer using resources for that and it's "contrived" to try and fit that into the bucket I portrayed.
- cogman10 1y ago
  > You called me a liar No, I didn't you snowflake. I said what you said isn't the truth, that doesn't make you a liar. People say false things all the time without lying. You can deeply hold incorrect beliefs, that doesn't make you a liar. But it's telling that that little pushback has your feelings hurt.
  - mothballed 1y ago
    I don't know what to say, your wife was victimized by the very people I describe, and the main takeaway is we will attack the messenger for saying it in a way they didn't like. I'm advocating to improve things for people like your wife, but we don't like to hear "hoodrat" or something like that we'd rather not hear it because we have this magical belief that people will get worse health care if some people are accurately called hoodrats. Maybe I didn't say things in a politically correct way, hopefully someone will come along and package it in a very delicate way for gentle sensibilities that won't be so triggering.
    - KittenInABox 1y ago
      Dude, you're the one who used your subjective negative experiences and made them so broad as to encompass a woman with cancer. Someone might've given you a bad experience but you're the one who took that and decided to broaden the category as everyone who uses an emergency room. This reads like maybe you had a traumatized experience and are acting extremely traumatized about it (like if a man punched me in the face and I declared all men to be face-punchers. My nose is broken but not all men broke it.).
      - mothballed 1y ago
        They didn't encompass a woman with cancer, they encompassed the people that degraded her care. A commenter literally used his cancer-ridden wife as bait to support his false argument, which I find to be way more abhorrent than whatever it is you think I said. Y'all are using the whole cancer excuse, which isn't the flu nor considered an STD, because you know anyone with cancer automatically wins the argument because how can you argue against a spouse of a metastatic cancer patient. It's the debate equivalent of bringing a bunch of little kids in casts from a school shooting to a gun control debate. If the kid speaks up, it doesn't matter what you say, if you discount their opinion you lose, all you can do is nod and say thank you for sharing your experience. Welp, we're on the internet here, and I have no "face" to lose. So I'm willing to get banned from HN or face unpopular opinion if it means telling the realities of the situation and not having my opinion shouted down "because of my wife with cancer" trump card. I'm not willing to just nod, I don't give a fuck if he extends the story to 3 kids with leukemia and his arthritic dog.
        KittenInABox 1y ago
        Bro now you're assuming a guy is baiting you when, as far as I can see, he was just protesting his wife being in the category of what you called "hood rats". You're the one that extrapolated your bad experience to all patients in the ER, btw, not the "hood rats" you were forced to deal with. This is such an emotional overreaction I think you probably went through some shit and can't see how damaged you've become as a result. You can't even see a man who loves his genuinely suffering wife as anything more than a cheap shot to win an argument. I'm sorry for what it's worth.