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> Why are you so hostile in tone to the truth? Because it's not truth and because my family has been personally affected by this attitude. My wife went in se

> Why are you so hostile in tone to the truth? Because it's not truth and because my family has been personally affected by this attitude. My wife went in several months to an urgent care with blood in her urine. They ran cultures that kept coming back negative. Didn't matter, antibiotics and she was told she needed to wash more thoroughly while being offered a doctor's note to get out of work each time. Eventually, they decided "hey, you are coming in here a lot, go to the ER and check to see if it's something else". So we did. Even there, she was treated as a "hood rat" (want to guess her skin color). They did a CT anyways and kidney cancer. We had her kidney removed as it was too big to salvage and unfortunately it ended up metastasizing to her liver. So, sorry of I'm hostile to someone "speaking truth" about "hood rats".

mothballed 1y ago
You just contrived your sob story to falsely fit a narrative I didn't portray. Cancer isn't considered an STD and it's not the flu, and your wife was victimized by the very people I'm describing that wasted ER resources.
- cogman10 1y ago
  Yeah, no way you can face that your terrible attitude has almost certainly hurt people like my wife. That's never your fault is it. The story isn't contrived or a sob story. We are in the middle of immuno and chemo therapies. You asked why I'm hostile, that's why and it's the truth.
  - mothballed 1y ago
    You called me a liar, how's it feal? >Yeah, no way you can face that your terrible attitude has almost certainly hurt people like my wife Lol, go work in an ER then and put your money where your mouth is. Show everyone how you're better. Pretty soon you'll know the truth too. No one is angry about someone with a fucking doctor referral showing up to the ER and then being found to have cancer using resources for that and it's "contrived" to try and fit that into the bucket I portrayed.
    - cogman10 1y ago
      > You called me a liar No, I didn't you snowflake. I said what you said isn't the truth, that doesn't make you a liar. People say false things all the time without lying. You can deeply hold incorrect beliefs, that doesn't make you a liar. But it's telling that that little pushback has your feelings hurt.
      - mothballed 1y ago
        I don't know what to say, your wife was victimized by the very people I describe, and the main takeaway is we will attack the messenger for saying it in a way they didn't like. I'm advocating to improve things for people like your wife, but we don't like to hear "hoodrat" or something like that we'd rather not hear it because we have this magical belief that people will get worse health care if some people are accurately called hoodrats. Maybe I didn't say things in a politically correct way, hopefully someone will come along and package it in a very delicate way for gentle sensibilities that won't be so triggering.
        KittenInABox 1y ago
        Dude, you're the one who used your subjective negative experiences and made them so broad as to encompass a woman with cancer. Someone might've given you a bad experience but you're the one who took that and decided to broaden the category as everyone who uses an emergency room. This reads like maybe you had a traumatized experience and are acting extremely traumatized about it (like if a man punched me in the face and I declared all men to be face-punchers. My nose is broken but not all men broke it.).
        mothballed 1y ago
        They didn't encompass a woman with cancer, they encompassed the people that degraded her care. A commenter literally used his cancer-ridden wife as bait to support his false argument, which I find to be way more abhorrent than whatever it is you think I said. Y'all are using the whole cancer excuse, which isn't the flu nor considered an STD, because you know anyone with cancer automatically wins the argument because how can you argue against a spouse of a metastatic cancer patient. It's the debate equivalent of bringing a bunch of little kids in casts from a school shooting to a gun control debate. If the kid speaks up, it doesn't matter what you say, if you discount their opinion you lose, all you can do is nod and say thank you for sharing your experience. Welp, we're on the internet here, and I have no "face" to lose. So I'm willing to get banned from HN or face unpopular opinion if it means telling the realities of the situation and not having my opinion shouted down "because of my wife with cancer" trump card. I'm not willing to just nod, I don't give a fuck if he extends the story to 3 kids with leukemia and his arthritic dog.

mothballed 1y ago

You just contrived your sob story to falsely fit a narrative I didn't portray. Cancer isn't considered an STD and it's not the flu, and your wife was victimized by the very people I'm describing that wasted ER resources.

cogman10 1y ago
Yeah, no way you can face that your terrible attitude has almost certainly hurt people like my wife. That's never your fault is it. The story isn't contrived or a sob story. We are in the middle of immuno and chemo therapies. You asked why I'm hostile, that's why and it's the truth.
- mothballed 1y ago
  You called me a liar, how's it feal? >Yeah, no way you can face that your terrible attitude has almost certainly hurt people like my wife Lol, go work in an ER then and put your money where your mouth is. Show everyone how you're better. Pretty soon you'll know the truth too. No one is angry about someone with a fucking doctor referral showing up to the ER and then being found to have cancer using resources for that and it's "contrived" to try and fit that into the bucket I portrayed.
  - cogman10 1y ago
    > You called me a liar No, I didn't you snowflake. I said what you said isn't the truth, that doesn't make you a liar. People say false things all the time without lying. You can deeply hold incorrect beliefs, that doesn't make you a liar. But it's telling that that little pushback has your feelings hurt.
    - mothballed 1y ago
      I don't know what to say, your wife was victimized by the very people I describe, and the main takeaway is we will attack the messenger for saying it in a way they didn't like. I'm advocating to improve things for people like your wife, but we don't like to hear "hoodrat" or something like that we'd rather not hear it because we have this magical belief that people will get worse health care if some people are accurately called hoodrats. Maybe I didn't say things in a politically correct way, hopefully someone will come along and package it in a very delicate way for gentle sensibilities that won't be so triggering.
      - KittenInABox 1y ago
        Dude, you're the one who used your subjective negative experiences and made them so broad as to encompass a woman with cancer. Someone might've given you a bad experience but you're the one who took that and decided to broaden the category as everyone who uses an emergency room. This reads like maybe you had a traumatized experience and are acting extremely traumatized about it (like if a man punched me in the face and I declared all men to be face-punchers. My nose is broken but not all men broke it.).
        mothballed 1y ago
        They didn't encompass a woman with cancer, they encompassed the people that degraded her care. A commenter literally used his cancer-ridden wife as bait to support his false argument, which I find to be way more abhorrent than whatever it is you think I said. Y'all are using the whole cancer excuse, which isn't the flu nor considered an STD, because you know anyone with cancer automatically wins the argument because how can you argue against a spouse of a metastatic cancer patient. It's the debate equivalent of bringing a bunch of little kids in casts from a school shooting to a gun control debate. If the kid speaks up, it doesn't matter what you say, if you discount their opinion you lose, all you can do is nod and say thank you for sharing your experience. Welp, we're on the internet here, and I have no "face" to lose. So I'm willing to get banned from HN or face unpopular opinion if it means telling the realities of the situation and not having my opinion shouted down "because of my wife with cancer" trump card. I'm not willing to just nod, I don't give a fuck if he extends the story to 3 kids with leukemia and his arthritic dog.