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by trymas 1y ago

One internet search away: https://qz.com/elon-musk-doge-nhtsa-tesla-neuralink-spacex-fda-faa-1851765781 https://qz.com/elon-musk-doge-nhtsa-tesla-neuralink-spacex-f...

parineum 1y ago
Which one was "investigating" musk?
- exe34 1y ago
  https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2025.02.13_fact_sheet_re_musk_investigations.pdf https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2025.02....
  - parineum 1y ago
    Broken link.
    - exe34 1y ago
      Apologies, it seems to move every few months. https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/democrats-judiciary.house.gov/files/migrated/UploadedFiles/2025.02.13_Fact_Sheet_re_Musk_Investigations.pdf https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/dem...
      - parineum 1y ago
        Generously, two of those I would classify as "investigating" with only one actually using that word but the investigation started in 2023 and I've heard nothing of it. He and his businesses have had several interactions with the federal government of varying antagonism but this is nothing like Trump firing Comey. I think that it's pretty apparent that the pdf you linked is a pretty partisan document that makes a lot of tenuous links between Musk recommending firing the low level employees and his interactions with the heads of those agencies.
        ModernMech 1y ago
        It is not unreasonable to expect that someone given this level of trust over the government should not have even an appearance of a conflict of interest. The mere fact that he himself is someone who is the beneficiary of billions of dollars of spending is an actual conflict.
        parineum 1y ago
        I don't disagree with that at all but the appearance of a potential conflict of interest is a far cry from the assertion that the op made which is an exaggeration of the document linked which is an exaggeration of the appearance of conflict of interest.
        ModernMech 1y ago
        I agree, but either way it's disqualifying.
dfe 1y ago
It is upsetting to me that people have so much trouble sifting fact from opinion or narrative. The fact is that DOGE made cuts to NHTSA. It is also a fact that DOGE made cuts to a bunch of agencies, not just ones related to something Elon was doing. There isn’t even any evidence that DOGE was more aggressive about cutting things related to Elon vs other government waste. Instead, all we have is an opinion by a reporter at an organization with a known bias for promoting the increase of government. The opinion is that the reason is to cut people specifically going after Elon. And to be clear I gave no opinion on what Elon did or didn’t do. My problem is I’m tired of living in a world where everyone assumes that anyone not in 100% agreement with their policies must of course be doing something nefarious. What if instead of repeating everyone know Elon is crazy and everyone knows Elon is corrupt and everyone knows this and that… what if we actually tried to analyze it rationally and sift through the news stories looking at the things that are definitely factually true vs. the authors opinions we happen to like because we want to imagine some people are awful and others are saints.
- trymas 1y ago
  > What if instead of repeating everyone know Elon is crazy and everyone knows Elon is corrupt and everyone knows this and that… what if we actually tried to analyze it rationally and sift through the news stories looking at the things that are definitely factually true vs. the authors opinions we happen to like because we want to imagine some people are awful and others are saints. How doge isn't a plain dictionary definition of corruption? A private citizen given a power to destroy organisations that overlook that citizens businesses? It used to be that in such cases that private citizen then must give up their rights to their businesses (or some other way of avoiding conflict of interest).
  - phkahler 1y ago
    The one they did the most damage to was probably USAID. They didnt have anything to do with Elons businesses. Meanwhile the FAA was still blocking starship flights.
    - voltaireodactyl 1y ago

by trymas 1y ago

One internet search away: https://qz.com/elon-musk-doge-nhtsa-tesla-neuralink-spacex-fda-faa-1851765781 https://qz.com/elon-musk-doge-nhtsa-tesla-neuralink-spacex-f...

parineum 1y ago

Which one was "investigating" musk?

exe34 1y ago
https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2025.02.13_fact_sheet_re_musk_investigations.pdf https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2025.02....
- parineum 1y ago
  Broken link.
  - exe34 1y ago
    Apologies, it seems to move every few months. https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/democrats-judiciary.house.gov/files/migrated/UploadedFiles/2025.02.13_Fact_Sheet_re_Musk_Investigations.pdf https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/dem...
    - parineum 1y ago
      Generously, two of those I would classify as "investigating" with only one actually using that word but the investigation started in 2023 and I've heard nothing of it. He and his businesses have had several interactions with the federal government of varying antagonism but this is nothing like Trump firing Comey. I think that it's pretty apparent that the pdf you linked is a pretty partisan document that makes a lot of tenuous links between Musk recommending firing the low level employees and his interactions with the heads of those agencies.
      - ModernMech 1y ago
        It is not unreasonable to expect that someone given this level of trust over the government should not have even an appearance of a conflict of interest. The mere fact that he himself is someone who is the beneficiary of billions of dollars of spending is an actual conflict.
        parineum 1y ago
        I don't disagree with that at all but the appearance of a potential conflict of interest is a far cry from the assertion that the op made which is an exaggeration of the document linked which is an exaggeration of the appearance of conflict of interest.
        ModernMech 1y ago
        I agree, but either way it's disqualifying.

dfe 1y ago

It is upsetting to me that people have so much trouble sifting fact from opinion or narrative. The fact is that DOGE made cuts to NHTSA. It is also a fact that DOGE made cuts to a bunch of agencies, not just ones related to something Elon was doing. There isn’t even any evidence that DOGE was more aggressive about cutting things related to Elon vs other government waste. Instead, all we have is an opinion by a reporter at an organization with a known bias for promoting the increase of government. The opinion is that the reason is to cut people specifically going after Elon. And to be clear I gave no opinion on what Elon did or didn’t do. My problem is I’m tired of living in a world where everyone assumes that anyone not in 100% agreement with their policies must of course be doing something nefarious. What if instead of repeating everyone know Elon is crazy and everyone knows Elon is corrupt and everyone knows this and that… what if we actually tried to analyze it rationally and sift through the news stories looking at the things that are definitely factually true vs. the authors opinions we happen to like because we want to imagine some people are awful and others are saints.

trymas 1y ago
> What if instead of repeating everyone know Elon is crazy and everyone knows Elon is corrupt and everyone knows this and that… what if we actually tried to analyze it rationally and sift through the news stories looking at the things that are definitely factually true vs. the authors opinions we happen to like because we want to imagine some people are awful and others are saints. How doge isn't a plain dictionary definition of corruption? A private citizen given a power to destroy organisations that overlook that citizens businesses? It used to be that in such cases that private citizen then must give up their rights to their businesses (or some other way of avoiding conflict of interest).
- phkahler 1y ago
  The one they did the most damage to was probably USAID. They didnt have anything to do with Elons businesses. Meanwhile the FAA was still blocking starship flights.
  - voltaireodactyl 1y ago