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Great move. Will probably switch to it immediately from Sendgrid as soon as it goes GA. Sendgrid recently killed their free tier (100 emails per day) and their
by pier25 1y ago
Great move. Will probably switch to it immediately from Sendgrid as soon as it goes GA.
Sendgrid recently killed their free tier (100 emails per day) and their lowest plan is now $20/month for 50,000 emails. It's totally overkill for low traffic projects.
- richwater 1y ago> Sendgrid recently killed their free tier (100 emails per day) and their lowest plan is now $20/month for 50,000 emails. It's totally overkill for low traffic projects. With a pricing structure like that it appears they became too tired of verifying/validating users to not send spam. Unfortunately I don't blame them.
- pier25 1y agoisn't this done automatically?
- sophacles 1y agoSure, and then the spammers figure out how to fool the checks. And sendgrid has to figure out how to detect the new and improved spammers. Then the spammers figure out how to fool the new and improved checks... and so on. The part where sendgrid has to keep figuring out how to make new and improved validation is expensive.
- bachmeier 1y ago$10/year for 10,000 messages/year is 10 cents per message. (Or some other volume at 10 cents/message.) Surely too high for spammers but cheap enough for an app with a low message volume.
- richwater 1y agoIt's not about optimizing for low volume side projects. Barrier to entry for (12 * $20) is much higher than $10/year and they figure that was worth the tradeoff of losing small fish customers.
- bachmeier 1y agoWell, I was responding to your claim that "it appears they became too tired of verifying/validating users to not send spam" is the reason for killing their low-volume free tier. It's a different story if they dropped the free tier to focus on large-volume customers.
- athorax 1y ago$10/year for 10,000 messages is a tenth of a penny per message
- albertgoeswoof 1y agoTry https://mailpace.com https://mailpace.com The lowest plan $40/year for 1k emails/month isn’t on the Pricing page, but you can select it when signing up.
- pier25 1y agoThanks. It's not very smart to not list that plan in the pricing page IMO.
- jasonfrost 1y agoOr migadu for 19/yr
- sodality2 1y agoMigadu is more for personal emails - they aren't meant for transactional emails at all.
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- johtso 1y agoThanks for recommending mailpace, £7.50/month for 10,000 emails is very reasonable, _and_ they support idempotency! Definitely makes me consider switching to them..
- iamcalledrob 1y agoBeen using Mailpace for a few years. Has been a 10/10 experience -- rock solid and extremely good deliverability. Wish the pricing increased non-linearly though at higher volumes.
- littlecranky67 1y agoSounds expensive. Amazon SES has 1k emails/month included for free (if you use an API to send). When sending via SMTP that quota does not apply, but still 1k Emails just costs 0.1$ (yes, 10 cents). I do not use any other AWS services but SES for my emails because of the pricing, I host everything else on Hetzner.
- rcleveng 1y agoEven with those pricing structures, 95%[1] of the spam I get comes from sendgrid. To their credit, their abuse@ address is good at handling the reports and they reply with a followup that the report was received and able to be acted upon[2]. The volume of spam (for me) doesn't seem to be decreasing from them, so there's a lot of moles to whack. [1] Just a guess from looking at the last weeks [2] I know it's automated, but often there's 2 that come with the 2nd one stating it's acted upon, so i'm hopeful.
- friendzis 1y agoThese services are just spam-circumvention as a service. It's cheaper and easier to pay 20 bucks to sendgrid and let them fight the fight with google/microsoft/yahoo than to circumvent spam protections of the big providers. You can very reasonably and reliably expect spam amount to correlate with the cost of sending said spam or expected return. At any service. There used to be a time where you HAD to check your mailbox several times a week or it would (literally) overflow with spam.
- alpn 1y agosmtp2go.com offers a free tier with 1,000 emails/month. I’ve been using it for a few small services I run and haven’t had any issues so far.
- jabroni_salad 1y agosmtp2go will let you have 200 a day or 1000 a month for free.
- bangaladore 1y agoSwitched to this from Sendgrid for my low email volume apps.
- tmiku 1y agoRe: Sendgrid killing their free tier - I used them for the contact form on my personal website, and after they ended the free tier I was able to move to Resend (who has a similar free tier) without too much work. Pretty happy with it so far.
- mfkp 1y agoZeptomail by zoho has been reliable for me and extremely reasonably priced: https://www.zoho.com/zeptomail/ https://www.zoho.com/zeptomail/
- mustaphah 1y agoMailgun offers 100 emails/day for free [1] [1] https://www.mailgun.com/pricing/ https://www.mailgun.com/pricing/
- noman-land 1y agoCloudflare themselves recommed(ed) Resend to send emails with workers. Generous free tier, simple. I didn't get too far down this road but for anyone interested: https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/tutorials/send-emails-with-resend/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/tutorials/send-ema...