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I highly highly highly highly highly doubt that website and their data. It also doesn't mention how much was lost in those contracts because they were actually

I highly highly highly highly highly doubt that website and their data. It also doesn't mention how much was lost in those contracts because they were actually valuable science, health, diplomatic, or medicinal. For instance, $3 billion saved from cancelling "Increasing Community Access to Testing, Treatment and Response (ICATT). The ICATT program provides access to no-cost COVID-19 testing in U.S. communities to people that are uninsured and no-cost COVID-19 vaccines to people that are underinsured and uninsured." That is shortsighted, evil, inefficient (better to keep pandemics from not happening), and idiotic to cancel. Again, anyone supporting DOGE is not a serious thinker or actually cares about what is "waste"

tester5555 1y ago
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- miltonlost 1y ago
  Do you think we should have cut funding for giving out COVID vaccines for free to the uninsured? Do you think that is actually helpful? See I can ask questions too. And the number I propose is 0%
  - shadowgovt 1y ago
    DOGE is, I think, a response to a real issue Americans have with their government: its process of evaluating cost and benefit is glacial in a world that is moving ever faster. Unfortunately, it's glacial for a reason; there's 380 million people in the country and 8 billion in the world. That's a lot of effect to weigh when making changes to the status quo. There's a three-panel comic about a person deciding they need change in their life and getting it by taking a chainsaw to their room. Panel three is them looking around and going "oh no." That is, unfortunately, sort of how I conceptualize DOGE.
  - dylan604 1y ago
    I'm guessing that if you made a Venn diagram of people in favor of DOGE and people that believe COVID was fake and the vaccine is a sham the result would be a circle
- selectodude 1y ago
  the USAID budget was about $20bn. Half a million extra dead so far from those cuts. So we can start there?
  - ThrowMeAway1618 1y ago
    >the USAID budget was about $20bn. Half a million extra dead so far from those cuts. So we can start there? Saving $40k/person[0] is wonderful savings! Let's save even more! Boo yah! USA! USA! USA! [0] I mean it's not like they're Americans. And they're most likely not white either. In which case, unless they're mowing my lawn or picking my cotton, they're worth essentially zero.
- dddgghhbbfblk 1y ago
  I know that civility is a core value of this community but it is very hard to respond to your comments here while maintaining that. What number would I propose? Probably a negative one. I don't think "we can say that at least 50-75% is actually helping". On what basis? Helping with what?
  - twisteriffic 1y ago
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning They aren't engaging in good faith. You're better off not responding.
- shadowgovt 1y ago
  These are exactly the kind of questions an administration could have, hypothetically, asked before forming a department dedicated to acting like it already had the answers. Did they ask them? I haven't seen evidence they did (if anything, the releases from the White House suggest DOGE became the tail that wags the dog, with OMB being asked to justify cuts to projects DOGE had already become convinced were waste, if they were consulted at all).

tester5555 1y ago

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miltonlost 1y ago
Do you think we should have cut funding for giving out COVID vaccines for free to the uninsured? Do you think that is actually helpful? See I can ask questions too. And the number I propose is 0%
- shadowgovt 1y ago
  DOGE is, I think, a response to a real issue Americans have with their government: its process of evaluating cost and benefit is glacial in a world that is moving ever faster. Unfortunately, it's glacial for a reason; there's 380 million people in the country and 8 billion in the world. That's a lot of effect to weigh when making changes to the status quo. There's a three-panel comic about a person deciding they need change in their life and getting it by taking a chainsaw to their room. Panel three is them looking around and going "oh no." That is, unfortunately, sort of how I conceptualize DOGE.
- dylan604 1y ago
  I'm guessing that if you made a Venn diagram of people in favor of DOGE and people that believe COVID was fake and the vaccine is a sham the result would be a circle
selectodude 1y ago
the USAID budget was about $20bn. Half a million extra dead so far from those cuts. So we can start there?
- ThrowMeAway1618 1y ago
  >the USAID budget was about $20bn. Half a million extra dead so far from those cuts. So we can start there? Saving $40k/person[0] is wonderful savings! Let's save even more! Boo yah! USA! USA! USA! [0] I mean it's not like they're Americans. And they're most likely not white either. In which case, unless they're mowing my lawn or picking my cotton, they're worth essentially zero.
dddgghhbbfblk 1y ago
I know that civility is a core value of this community but it is very hard to respond to your comments here while maintaining that. What number would I propose? Probably a negative one. I don't think "we can say that at least 50-75% is actually helping". On what basis? Helping with what?
- twisteriffic 1y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning They aren't engaging in good faith. You're better off not responding.
shadowgovt 1y ago
These are exactly the kind of questions an administration could have, hypothetically, asked before forming a department dedicated to acting like it already had the answers. Did they ask them? I haven't seen evidence they did (if anything, the releases from the White House suggest DOGE became the tail that wags the dog, with OMB being asked to justify cuts to projects DOGE had already become convinced were waste, if they were consulted at all).