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German newspapers report that there is already a death sentence fatwa against all participants in the movie, issued by a salafist egyptian imam. No idea how th

• mkhattab 14y ago
  It's common knowledge that these "fatwas" don't mean anything. In fact, these fatwas are complete bullshit. In fact, in regards to the Salman Rushdie case, Al Azhar (at the time), the highest and most prestigious Islamic institution, stated that Salman Rushdie was not to be touched and that it was against the Islamic principles to harm him.
  • Tichy 14y ago
    So are you saying Salman Rushdie is safe and should come out into the public again? People have been killed before. There have been attacks on the Danish cartoonists, too (I know of one attack, not sure if there were more). Of course it is complete bullshit.
    • einhverfr 14y ago
      You know, even if we agree that religion is a divine gift it is up to us to decide what we do with it. If I give you $20 and you go out and buy beer with it, and end up cheating on your wife, you don't come back to me and complain my $20 was evil and tell me I should have given you money in Euros instead. People are going to do what they will. The religion and the fattwas don't really matter. I have been in Indonesia when there were clerics issuing fattwas saying that killing Americans was ok. I just think it's tragic they get listened to.
      • Tichy 14y ago
        I can assure you it is even more tragic for the people who get killed. I am not sure what you are saying. Are you saying that if no Muslim fanatics were out to kill Salman Rushdie, then surely somebody else would be out to kill him (maybe somebody who had a beer beforehand), so the involvement of Islamic faith in the case is completely irrelevant?
        • einhverfr 14y ago
          I think religion plays second fiddle to every other factor out there. It's more often justification than motivation. The thing is that I can't think of any religion or non-religion that hasn't had extremely violent organizations use their ideology as a basis for this sort of thing. I was attending a Christian church in Jakarta once (no I am not really a Christian, and partly because of this), and the preacher recommended trying to convert Buddhist children as practice for converting Muslims. The thing is though that this wasn't well received by the Congregation even though it fit in perfectly well with their worldview. They chose to do something different with their religion and not be one minority victimizing another. People choose what to do with their religion. Blame people, not what books they read.
          • Tichy 14y ago
            My point was only there might be some real danger to the actors because of some sentiments in part of the Islamic "community". That doesn't imply that Islam is worse than other religions (personally I have no fondness for any of them, but that is another story). Although I wonder how it is structured - why can some Imams get by with issuing such statements? I don't think any priests of the "big" christian churches could do such a thing without being expelled. However, there seem to be a lot of crazy private "Christian" churches that are probably capable of anything. I am just not sure if their actions would then be described as "Christians doing stuff"? One similar thing that comes to mind is "Christians" calling for abortion doctors to be killed (I think there were also some successful killings or at least attempts at it).
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  • nandemo 14y ago
    A fatwa by Iran's religious leader doesn't mean anything? Several people involved in the publishing the Satanic Verses were attacked, and one was killed. If I were involved in the production of that movie (even unintentionally, like that actress), I'd be very careful now.