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These drones have lights on at night. That doesn't sound too much like Russians to me. But maybe that's just what the Russians want me to think... At least one

These drones have lights on at night. That doesn't sound too much like Russians to me. But maybe that's just what the Russians want me to think... At least one of the videos published recently was likely of a school plane from Copenhagen Airtaxi, according to a Norwegian drone trade magazine: https://www.dronemag.no/dansk-droneobservasjon-kan-ha-vaert-skolefly/ https://www.dronemag.no/dansk-droneobservasjon-kan-ha-vaert-...

Tankenstein 1y ago
If the intent is to harass - lights on is the way to go, to make their presence very clearly known.
- vintermann 1y ago
  But, as I said, it looks like the early (earliest?) observations were actually of a school plane. Probably some concerned citizen filmed it, and the authorities didn't immediately realize what it was since figuring out the exact place of a light in the sky in a cell phone video isn't that easy. Could it still be the Russians? Yes, I guess. But if the first observation turns out to have NOT been the Russians, to me that's a bit like how the first crop circles turned out to be a confirmed prank - yeah, technically later ones could still be aliens but given how it started doesn't that seem implausible? Not to make a comparison otherwise, of course believing in nefarious Russians is a lot more reasonable than believing in mischievous aliens. But I'm trying to make an argument about a causal explanations and a kind of data-generating process, ... not doing too great a job at it I guess.
4ndrewl 1y ago
Don't get me wrong - at Gatwick there were many reports of people seeing drones with lights. The only problem is they weren't - they were seeing something else and reporting as seeing drones because they must have seen a drone - what else could it be?
clan 1y ago
4 smaller airports in DK had visits during this night as well. Also lights on. Still thinking coincidence?
- vintermann 1y ago
  Definitively not coincidence, but there are a lot of things that could cause a pattern of reported air lights - such as a warning to be on high alert looking for them, the autumnal equinox (nights are getting much darker very quickly in Denmark right now), etc.
- 4ndrewl 1y ago
  Mass-hysteria isn't just coincidence, it feeds off itself. The 4 other airports were all in DK, where it's top of the news and where everyone is talking about it. Not in other countries.
  - vintermann 1y ago
    I think mass hysteria is too perjorative. We have a lot of suspicious data points, but then a new data point turns up (early lights were a false alert) which suggests that the data generating process may be pretty biased.
- baobun 1y ago
  If I was 14, a rascal up to no good, had a drone and lived close to an airport I know what I'd be doing for the lulz.
  - 1718627440 1y ago
    You would hopefully also know that this has serious consequences. Burning your home might be cheaper.
    - baobun 1y ago
      What kinds of consequences? Grounding? Have my drone taken away? > Burning your home might be cheaper. Makes no sense. Kids get off easy. And can be less concerned with consequences.

Tankenstein 1y ago

If the intent is to harass - lights on is the way to go, to make their presence very clearly known.

vintermann 1y ago
But, as I said, it looks like the early (earliest?) observations were actually of a school plane. Probably some concerned citizen filmed it, and the authorities didn't immediately realize what it was since figuring out the exact place of a light in the sky in a cell phone video isn't that easy. Could it still be the Russians? Yes, I guess. But if the first observation turns out to have NOT been the Russians, to me that's a bit like how the first crop circles turned out to be a confirmed prank - yeah, technically later ones could still be aliens but given how it started doesn't that seem implausible? Not to make a comparison otherwise, of course believing in nefarious Russians is a lot more reasonable than believing in mischievous aliens. But I'm trying to make an argument about a causal explanations and a kind of data-generating process, ... not doing too great a job at it I guess.

4ndrewl 1y ago

Don't get me wrong - at Gatwick there were many reports of people seeing drones with lights. The only problem is they weren't - they were seeing something else and reporting as seeing drones because they must have seen a drone - what else could it be?

clan 1y ago

4 smaller airports in DK had visits during this night as well. Also lights on. Still thinking coincidence?

vintermann 1y ago
Definitively not coincidence, but there are a lot of things that could cause a pattern of reported air lights - such as a warning to be on high alert looking for them, the autumnal equinox (nights are getting much darker very quickly in Denmark right now), etc.
4ndrewl 1y ago
Mass-hysteria isn't just coincidence, it feeds off itself. The 4 other airports were all in DK, where it's top of the news and where everyone is talking about it. Not in other countries.
- vintermann 1y ago
  I think mass hysteria is too perjorative. We have a lot of suspicious data points, but then a new data point turns up (early lights were a false alert) which suggests that the data generating process may be pretty biased.
baobun 1y ago
If I was 14, a rascal up to no good, had a drone and lived close to an airport I know what I'd be doing for the lulz.
- 1718627440 1y ago
  You would hopefully also know that this has serious consequences. Burning your home might be cheaper.
  - baobun 1y ago
    What kinds of consequences? Grounding? Have my drone taken away? > Burning your home might be cheaper. Makes no sense. Kids get off easy. And can be less concerned with consequences.