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I wonder if Retro washing machines and refrigerators (non-IOT) will go up in price because of this?
by ptek 1y ago
I wonder if Retro washing machines and refrigerators (non-IOT) will go up in price because of this?
- kogasa240p 1y agoI think that's already the case with some TVs.
- fluoridation 1y agoYou could also just not give it a network, couldn't you?
- frollogaston 1y agoYeah, unless it has a cell modem, not that it's cheap enough to make sense today
- ssl-3 1y agoI have personally installed equipment that included non-optional, always-on cellular data connectivity that allowed it to be configured and monitored from The Clown. And Amazon rather famously included cellular connectivity with their early Kindle e-ink book-reading devices -- back in '07. It's been done before. It can be done again.
- fluoridation 1y agoEh. If someone wants to waste money keeping up a data connection with my washing machine, I don't have much of an issue with it, as long as it doesn't have any microphones.
- frollogaston 1y agoIt would probably have a mic if they're going to do that
- Mountain_Skies 1y agoYou can but they can constantly scan for any open connection that happens by and then dump cached data into it when one is found. Cell modems are becoming cheaper too, as is bulk cellular bandwidth, especially if buffered for periods of low utilization. In those cases, it might be less data since the connection is limited or the data harvester is paying. People with basement laundry rooms will have a built in advantage when dealing with this sort of thing.
- anonym29 1y agoOne can still conduct deauth attacks fairly easily, or, if the device just picks the strongest open network signal, one can set up a dummy / honeypot WLAN right next to the appliance that has no internet connectivity, and as you note with the basement reference, faraday solutions can work well, too, not to mention simply removing or disabling the networking hardware. This is also true for cars - it's often not terribly difficult to pull the fuse for the cellular modem provided you can procure a manual.
- nbngeorcjhe 1y ago> conducting deauth attacks so your appliances don't spy on you ted was right
- anonym29 1y agoCounterpoint: Stallman was right. Technology is a net benefit to society when users can control it, whereas stripping control from users (a la proprietary software) enables and promotes abusive, exploitative business practices like these.