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Biden actually delivered a lot, and it didn't matter to the left. Once they galvanized around Palestine, his and Harris' intransigent position on that was all t

by krapp 1y ago

Biden actually delivered a lot, and it didn't matter to the left. Once they galvanized around Palestine, his and Harris' intransigent position on that was all that mattered. The only thing Biden could have delivered that would have saved the left was drone strikes on Tel Aviv. Meanwhile Trump delivers almost nothing of substance and it doesn't seem to matter to the right. They even stopped caring about Epstein as soon as Charlie Kirk's murder gave them something to froth at the mouth about. I don't know what the future of the left should be but to me it doesn't seem like economic policy is driving either side - even the "price of eggs" thing seems like a post-hoc rationalization for votes people were already going to make. If anything the problem seems to be that the Democrats aren't channeling the outrage of their base as effectively as the Republicans, and there isn't a third option for leftism in the US at that scale. Maybe the left should abandon all hope for the White House and just focus on state-level activism, and build up support for an actual leftist party and agenda.

computerthings 1y ago
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PaulHoule 1y ago
Outrage politics and culture wars privilege the right. You can press harder on that accelerator all you want it will get Republicans elected. I talked to quite a few family members in NY whose vote didn't count who saw that they did have a choice between Trump and Harris and did not feel like they had to vote to support their tribe. The election was rather close and you're going to win it by getting these people to change their mind, not by motivating the most motivated Democrats or demotivating the most motivated Republicans. To people like that a demonstration of competence or at least that you have a pulse or that you support something rather than you got selected and nobody should vote for the madman because.... that just doesn't work. There are just many things about the American experience with the public sphere that turn people away from it. It's not a matter of safe or unsafe but rather pleasant vs unpleasant and a lack of recognition that pleasant vs unpleasant matters. Go to China and the subways don't screech the way the NY subway does. You drive over the same pothole for five years because it doesn't get fixed until they can get a federal grant to fix it. Stuff like that. Believe it or not there were people who voted: Obama - Trump - Biden - Trump and had the D’s managed to reach that person we would not be in this nightmare.
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by krapp 1y ago

computerthings 1y ago

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PaulHoule 1y ago

Outrage politics and culture wars privilege the right. You can press harder on that accelerator all you want it will get Republicans elected. I talked to quite a few family members in NY whose vote didn't count who saw that they did have a choice between Trump and Harris and did not feel like they had to vote to support their tribe. The election was rather close and you're going to win it by getting these people to change their mind, not by motivating the most motivated Democrats or demotivating the most motivated Republicans. To people like that a demonstration of competence or at least that you have a pulse or that you support something rather than you got selected and nobody should vote for the madman because.... that just doesn't work. There are just many things about the American experience with the public sphere that turn people away from it. It's not a matter of safe or unsafe but rather pleasant vs unpleasant and a lack of recognition that pleasant vs unpleasant matters. Go to China and the subways don't screech the way the NY subway does. You drive over the same pothole for five years because it doesn't get fixed until they can get a federal grant to fix it. Stuff like that. Believe it or not there were people who voted: Obama - Trump - Biden - Trump and had the D’s managed to reach that person we would not be in this nightmare.

cindyllm 1y ago
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