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> majority of enterprise software now (including and starting with Microsoft teams) outright say do not support firefox Teams has explicitly supported Firefox

> majority of enterprise software now (including and starting with Microsoft teams) outright say do not support firefox Teams has explicitly supported Firefox for a while now https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/teams-client-web https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/teams-clien... but the problem is "there's always another site that doesn't work right". Firefox usage share got too low, so places just check Chrom* and Safari work with the new feature and ship (sometimes not even the latter, if they don't care about mobile as much).

notpushkin 1y ago
> there's always another site that doesn't work right I keep hearing it, but personally I’ve only come across one recently (a site was running some tracking bullshit that broke on FF). And there’s one feature broken on LinkedIn.
- zamadatix 1y ago
  Take that you know of 2 from recent memory and imagine someone unlucky enough to be in the top 10% of most broken sites experience by chance for the last 3 months. Those are the ones that comment/leave about it, but it's a game of attrition over a long enough time. Webcompat used to be a lot more active (not sure if it's one of the things Mozilla has stopped actively engaging or not) but it was always a few big sites followed by an endless stream of "I'd never use that site, but that's precisely the kind of thing an average user wouldn't want to be troubleshooting" stuff. E.g. I remember seeing https://webcompat.com/issues/136422 https://webcompat.com/issues/136422 and thinking "yeah, the hospitals I used to work at stopped testing in Firefox too - and the sites are already frustrating when they work as expected".
  - notpushkin 1y ago
    I know of 2 from the past few years. I mean yeah, this is n=1, others use other sites which do break etc. It’s a sad state of things, but also most of the web does work the same. It’s certainly not an acceptable tradeoff for everyone, but for me it’s been totally fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

notpushkin 1y ago

> there's always another site that doesn't work right I keep hearing it, but personally I’ve only come across one recently (a site was running some tracking bullshit that broke on FF). And there’s one feature broken on LinkedIn.

zamadatix 1y ago
Take that you know of 2 from recent memory and imagine someone unlucky enough to be in the top 10% of most broken sites experience by chance for the last 3 months. Those are the ones that comment/leave about it, but it's a game of attrition over a long enough time. Webcompat used to be a lot more active (not sure if it's one of the things Mozilla has stopped actively engaging or not) but it was always a few big sites followed by an endless stream of "I'd never use that site, but that's precisely the kind of thing an average user wouldn't want to be troubleshooting" stuff. E.g. I remember seeing https://webcompat.com/issues/136422 https://webcompat.com/issues/136422 and thinking "yeah, the hospitals I used to work at stopped testing in Firefox too - and the sites are already frustrating when they work as expected".
- notpushkin 1y ago
  I know of 2 from the past few years. I mean yeah, this is n=1, others use other sites which do break etc. It’s a sad state of things, but also most of the web does work the same. It’s certainly not an acceptable tradeoff for everyone, but for me it’s been totally fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯