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You also should just stop using Google Search. DuckDuckGo is solid, or if you don't want to use search results from Bing's index, I've been very happy with Brav

You also should just stop using Google Search. DuckDuckGo is solid, or if you don't want to use search results from Bing's index, I've been very happy with Brave Search.

behnamoh 1y ago
people say that but they often come back to Google ;) I've just learnt to use ad blockers. the only time I disable it is when I look up the definition of something or the location of a place and the entire page goes blank because of some rules I've added to uBlock.
- arkh 1y ago
  > people say that but they often come back to Google ;) It used to be the case. One of my laptop is setup with default DDG and the rare times I switch back to google I'm disappointed by even worse results.
- array_key_first 1y ago
  > people say that but they often come back to Google ;) The thing is that Google is actively becoming more hostile and difficult to use. Not just Google Search, but really all their products. They're becoming Facebook, slowly but surely. Something we might be forced to use now and again, but nobody actually likes. The reality is that Google is such a poorly run company that they will destroy their own products, given enough time. Their competitors need to do nothing. Literally nothing.
- LorenDB 1y ago
  I haven't used Google (apart from their as-of-yet undefeated image search, the occasional hard link from a web page, and the two times I tried the Circle to Search feature) for at least five years now and I have zero interest in going back.
jeremyjh 1y ago
I agree about DDG, but I find Kagi worth paying for.
- nicce 1y ago
  A very valuable service for its price. Also translate.kagi.com is much better than Google’s one.
  - balder1991 1y ago
    For translation, a good one is DeepL.
    - nicce 1y ago
      I used it until I found Kagi one.
    - int_19h 1y ago
      For translation, just pick your chatbot of choice. LLMs fail at many things, but as translators they are very good.
  - fragmede 1y ago
    there's also bing, which does not cost money to use.
- DanOpcode 1y ago
  I have been using Kagi for about a month now. Haven't had any desire during that time to go back to Google. Solid search engine!
  - coldpie 1y ago
    Can you give some example queries where Kagi performs better than Google? I've tried it a few times and found it to be nothing special.
- cuu508 1y ago
aydyn 1y ago
> You also should just stop using Google Search. DuckDuckGo is solid The only people who would say that are people who would be better off just asking ChatGPT. Any nuanced search that isnt some encyclopedic fact is terrible on DDG.
- xp84 1y ago
  I agree somewhat, but those searches are getting less and less good on Google though. In my recent experience, I'm far better off asking ChatGPT or just using it through Bing/Copilot than what I used to do a decade ago, which was deep dives through 5 pages of long-tail search results.
teekert 1y ago
It's solid, I use it 95% of the time, that 5% Google usually still disappoints. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=midjourney&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=midjourney&ia=web -> Hmm, midjourney the AI thingy is not even there for me! Just https://www.midjourney.com https://www.midjourney.com which is not really clear on what it is. Midjourney is at Midjourney.online, which is not even on the first page. So Argualbly Google is still better. What a world. Btw, I search DDG from the Firefox bar, and that does not let me copy the URL anymore!!! Wtf. There is just the search term, like there is in the field below it!! Omg, now I have the same thing twice, and a useful thing has been lost.
- squigz 1y ago
  Erm, I'm fairly confident Midjourney.com is what you're talking about? https://www.midjourney.com/explore?tab=video_top https://www.midjourney.com/explore?tab=video_top Midjourney.online doesn't show up on either platform for me on the first page.
- klez 1y ago
  > I search DDG from the Firefox bar, and that does not let me copy the URL anymore Yeah, I just noticed too. Go to Settings->Search there's a checkbox just below the default search engine. Uncheck that. Should be something along the lines of "Show search terms in the address bar in search results" (sorry for any errors in the translation, my browser's language is not English).
mock-possum 1y ago
Duck Duck Go is consistently worse than Google Search in, see https://www.tumblr.com/ddgvsggl https://www.tumblr.com/ddgvsggl
carlosjobim 1y ago
DuckDuckGo falls hard in quality when it comes to queries which are not in English. The only search engines who are good for those are Google and Kagi, in my opinion.

You also should just stop using Google Search. DuckDuckGo is solid, or if you don't want to use search results from Bing's index, I've been very happy with Brave Search.

behnamoh 1y ago

people say that but they often come back to Google ;) I've just learnt to use ad blockers. the only time I disable it is when I look up the definition of something or the location of a place and the entire page goes blank because of some rules I've added to uBlock.

arkh 1y ago
> people say that but they often come back to Google ;) It used to be the case. One of my laptop is setup with default DDG and the rare times I switch back to google I'm disappointed by even worse results.
array_key_first 1y ago
> people say that but they often come back to Google ;) The thing is that Google is actively becoming more hostile and difficult to use. Not just Google Search, but really all their products. They're becoming Facebook, slowly but surely. Something we might be forced to use now and again, but nobody actually likes. The reality is that Google is such a poorly run company that they will destroy their own products, given enough time. Their competitors need to do nothing. Literally nothing.
LorenDB 1y ago
I haven't used Google (apart from their as-of-yet undefeated image search, the occasional hard link from a web page, and the two times I tried the Circle to Search feature) for at least five years now and I have zero interest in going back.

jeremyjh 1y ago

I agree about DDG, but I find Kagi worth paying for.

nicce 1y ago
A very valuable service for its price. Also translate.kagi.com is much better than Google’s one.
- balder1991 1y ago
  For translation, a good one is DeepL.
  - nicce 1y ago
    I used it until I found Kagi one.
  - int_19h 1y ago
    For translation, just pick your chatbot of choice. LLMs fail at many things, but as translators they are very good.
- fragmede 1y ago
  there's also bing, which does not cost money to use.
DanOpcode 1y ago
I have been using Kagi for about a month now. Haven't had any desire during that time to go back to Google. Solid search engine!
- coldpie 1y ago
  Can you give some example queries where Kagi performs better than Google? I've tried it a few times and found it to be nothing special.
cuu508 1y ago

aydyn 1y ago

> You also should just stop using Google Search. DuckDuckGo is solid The only people who would say that are people who would be better off just asking ChatGPT. Any nuanced search that isnt some encyclopedic fact is terrible on DDG.

xp84 1y ago
I agree somewhat, but those searches are getting less and less good on Google though. In my recent experience, I'm far better off asking ChatGPT or just using it through Bing/Copilot than what I used to do a decade ago, which was deep dives through 5 pages of long-tail search results.

teekert 1y ago

It's solid, I use it 95% of the time, that 5% Google usually still disappoints. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=midjourney&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=midjourney&ia=web -> Hmm, midjourney the AI thingy is not even there for me! Just https://www.midjourney.com https://www.midjourney.com which is not really clear on what it is. Midjourney is at Midjourney.online, which is not even on the first page. So Argualbly Google is still better. What a world. Btw, I search DDG from the Firefox bar, and that does not let me copy the URL anymore!!! Wtf. There is just the search term, like there is in the field below it!! Omg, now I have the same thing twice, and a useful thing has been lost.

squigz 1y ago
Erm, I'm fairly confident Midjourney.com is what you're talking about? https://www.midjourney.com/explore?tab=video_top https://www.midjourney.com/explore?tab=video_top Midjourney.online doesn't show up on either platform for me on the first page.
klez 1y ago
> I search DDG from the Firefox bar, and that does not let me copy the URL anymore Yeah, I just noticed too. Go to Settings->Search there's a checkbox just below the default search engine. Uncheck that. Should be something along the lines of "Show search terms in the address bar in search results" (sorry for any errors in the translation, my browser's language is not English).

mock-possum 1y ago

Duck Duck Go is consistently worse than Google Search in, see https://www.tumblr.com/ddgvsggl https://www.tumblr.com/ddgvsggl

carlosjobim 1y ago

DuckDuckGo falls hard in quality when it comes to queries which are not in English. The only search engines who are good for those are Google and Kagi, in my opinion.