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That doesn't seem right. Taking your own car, which you park at both ends of the trip, is clearly worse from a vehicle utilization and land use standpoint. A Wa
by jeffbee 1y ago
That doesn't seem right. Taking your own car, which you park at both ends of the trip, is clearly worse from a vehicle utilization and land use standpoint. A Waymo that takes a dozen trips a day and never parks on the street seems obviously superior.
- delfinom 1y agoI think the point is it's green washing. True sustainability is public transit, or biking or walking. This is just a line item got a company to blast as sustainability in marketing. This will let Waymo absorb some money from green washing slush funds.
- fidotron 1y ago> True sustainability is public transit, or biking or walking. Surely it's whatever is most sustainable, which Waymo (or equivalent) very well could be.
- jeffbee 1y agoIt's better than the status quo, your standard for Scotsmen notwithstanding.
- xnx 1y ago> True sustainability is public transit, or biking or walking Free your mind. Cost per passenger mile is atrocious for most US transit systems. All that cost equals carbon: concrete, steel, fuel, salaries, etc.
- thrance 1y agoThe waymo carries no passengers when it's driving to pick up its next customer. So, its average occupancy (<1) is somehow even worse than that of a car used exclusively by one person.
- jeffbee 1y agoThis is incorrect, because you have used the wrong denominator. The average occupancy of a private car is approximately zero. Most of the time, it just sits there empty.
- thrance 1y agoWho cares how many passengers it has while not moving? It's not using any energy then, and neither is it participating to traffic.
- jeffbee 1y agoAgain, this is not correct. Parked cars absolutely "participate in traffic" by making the other things in the city further apart and less convenient to reach without cars, and cars parked on the curb are taking up an entire lane of the street, which is half the street in many cases, or in some places like Manhattan the parking lanes are 2/3rds of the street.
- horseradish7k 1y agothe more people use it, the more likely there will be someone nearby to pick up next. and this issue is not exclusive to waymos, it applies to taxis in general.