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Do we really want corporations enforcing unconfirmed reports? If the legal system can't handle the situation, why should we expect a private corporation to?
by handoflixue 1y ago
Do we really want corporations enforcing unconfirmed reports? If the legal system can't handle the situation, why should we expect a private corporation to?
- jcims 1y agoI’m perfectly comfortable with them banning people that have multiple reports of criminal activity.
- handoflixue 1y agoIf there are multiple confirmed reports of criminal activity, why isn't that person being arrested?
- bad_haircut72 1y agoperhaps the bar for kicking someone off a dating app could be lower than that required for a criminal conviction??
- bitmasher9 1y agoBeing arrested and convicted of a crime is a much higher bar than what is required to ban somebody. I absolutely want private companies to curate their community of users. This is actively happening, and for some content and jurisdictions it is legally required to happen. If you get a strong signal that someone is a bad actor in your community you should remove them.
- sugarpimpdorsey 1y ago[flagged]
- dsr_ 1y agoIf everybody you meet is a jerk, maybe it's not them.
- surgical_fire 1y agoMaybe everybody sucks. All people are garbage people. "Misanthropes of the world... Keep yourselves apart! Because, fuck you."
- BeetleB 1y agoCliques are a thing, and it's often the case that the clique is the one with the jerks.
- dsr_ 1y agoAh, but "sugarpimpdorsey" says that "echo chambers like lobsters and cesspools of the deranged like BlueSky" ban him. Is it your contention that lobsters and bluesky are run by the same or allied cliques? Perhaps it is more likely that someone who chooses that username might repeatedly act in ways which confirm to them that everyone else is a jerk?
- paxys 1y agoWhat is the "strong signal"? It takes three clicks to report anyone for anything.
- biophysboy 1y agoMultiple reports from multiple users? The linked article starts with this.
- polski-g 1y ago"Hey friends! This guy was a jerk to me at my date. Please file a rape report with Hinge to get him banned! Toodles :)"
- tredre3 1y agoI agree, even a handful of reports in a short period could have been orchestrated as a payback. However surely you could agree that there is a reasonable line somewhere. If, over the course of several months, multiple people with seemingly no connection to each other report the same problematic person, then is there ANY reason to not issue a ban?
- handoflixue 1y agoI feel like "just issue a ban" trivializes the complexity of this: banning one account does basically nothing, and they can just create a new account. Multiple people often have the same name, so you can't just ban everyone with that name. It's trivial to take new pictures, etc.. That leaves, what, asking a private company to do facial recognition scans on all new users? Requiring them to present official government ID ala the recent EU laws?
- bitmasher9 1y agoPerfect is the enemy of good. Honestly I’d prefer a dating app that checks identity and prohibits duplicate accounts
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- YetAnotherNick 1y agoI could understand not banning users or being too conservative in general, but match group bans lots of users without any communication. I know people banned without any reason, and you can see so many reports on reddit. So they could probably just automate banning on even single report.
- handoflixue 1y agoI feel like "auto-ban on a single report" gets weaponized as soon as people figure it out, and just encourages people to get better at creating alt-accounts to evade the bans?
- polski-g 1y agoEvery ugly person would just go through the app and report the hot people to increase their chances of landing a date.
- biophysboy 1y ago>When a young woman in Denver met up with a smiling cardiologist she matched with on the dating app Hinge, she had no way of knowing that the company behind the app had already received reports from two other women who accused him of rape. This is clearly worse than false positives. They have a big user database that law enforcement does not.
- handoflixue 1y ago> They have a big user database that law enforcement does not. Why doesn't law enforcement have this data? Presumably these crimes are being reported to the police? If the crime wasn't worth reporting to the police, I'm not convinced why a private company would have some obligation to act.
- biophysboy 1y ago> Even after a police report, it took nearly two months for Matthews to be arrested — the only thing that got him off the apps. By then, at least 15 women would eventually report that Matthews had raped or drugged them. Nearly every one of them had met him on dating apps run by Match Group.
- handoflixue 1y agoYes, I read the article. So what's the problem? The legal process was followed, he got arrested. If you think the legal process is too slow, presumably the focus should be on fixing that, so that rapists face actual consequences?
- stevage 1y ago> Presumably these crimes are being reported to the police? Why do you presume that? And even in the best case scenario, it takes years between a report and someone being sent to prison.
- BeetleB 1y ago> They have a big user database that law enforcement does not. That they should share with law enforcement when appropriately requested.