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NewPipe is incredible. If Google ever stops signing apps like that, I'll be switching to a Linux phone.

by bigyabai 1y ago

cranberryturkey 1y ago
as soon as they have a map app that works with car play i'm switching to linux phone.
- bigyabai 1y ago
  GNOME Maps is good enough for me. I don't know what Carplay is and at this point I'd rather not ask.
  - m4tthumphrey 1y ago
    Framework for using your cars infotainment system as your screen/input device. Android has something similar called Android Auto.
  - deleted 1y ago
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- jraph 1y ago
  Don't car play and android auto rely on proprietary libraries? I doubt it will come to Linux phones unless they take off or something like microg reimplements the proprietary parts.
- Gabrys1 1y ago
  There are boxes you plug to your CarPlay enabled car that run Android. Run Google Maps on that and you're golden. No need to carry/connect your phone to the car anymore
  - non-nil 1y ago
    I don't think you mean a wired-to-wireless dongle, which is all my searches turn up. Can you give me an example of such a device?
    - Gabrys1 1y ago
      Oh, there's plenty of these, here's just one example: https://www.amazon.com/ATOTOOUT-Magic-Box-Built-Bluetooth/dp/B0F9389PDY https://www.amazon.com/ATOTOOUT-Magic-Box-Built-Bluetooth/dp...
      - non-nil 1y ago
        Thanks! What a fantastic keyword salad that product serves up. Not cheap, but then again why should a magic AI box be cheap?
chasil 1y ago
I use another app from F-Droid called Skytube for occasional downloads. I like it. https://f-droid.org/en/packages/free.rm.skytube.oss/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/free.rm.skytube.oss/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/free.rm.skytube.legacy.oss/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/free.rm.skytube.legacy.oss/
1vuio0pswjnm7 1y ago
"If Google ever stops signing apps like that, I'll be switching to a LInux phone." Is this another way of saying, "I will keep using it until it stops working"
extraduder_ire 1y ago
What do you mean by signing? Application signing on android is done by the developer, with their own key. Or by fdroid, in the case of apps built by fdroid in the default repository.
- heavyset_go 1y ago
  Things have changed. Google is doing what Apple does and implementing Gatekeeper-like signature checks to ensure only apps by Google-approved developers can run on Android. Microsoft does something similar with Windows Defender: you need to buy a developer certificate that can be revoked at any time if you want to distribute your app and have users be able to run it. We're at a point where we need permission from trillion dollar companies to run the apps we want on the hardware we own.
  - 71bw 1y ago
    >Microsoft does something similar with Windows Defender: you need to buy a developer certificate that can be revoked at any time if you want to distribute your app and have users be able to run it. Clarifying: you CAN run an unsigned app just fine on Windows. A lot of freeware/"indie" (for lack of a better term for small software) programs run just fine, the only thing that happens is the user recieves a warning they have to press "Yes" on (which 95% of people do, because That's The Windows UX[patent pending]).
    - heavyset_go 1y ago
      Depends, I ran into this issue[1] a while ago with unsigned binaries. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40815488 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40815488
    - promano 1y ago
      They obfuscate it more than just pressing "Yes". You get a big warning saying Microsoft Defender has protected you, and the only clear option is "Don't run" https://cdn.advancedinstaller.com/img/prevent-smartscreen-from-appearing/microsoft-defender-smartscreen-warning.png https://cdn.advancedinstaller.com/img/prevent-smartscreen-fr... In order to run, you have to click on "More info", and then a second "Run anyway" button appears. There's way more than 5% of the Windows userbase that gets confused and can't get past this warning.

NewPipe is incredible. If Google ever stops signing apps like that, I'll be switching to a Linux phone.

cranberryturkey 1y ago

as soon as they have a map app that works with car play i'm switching to linux phone.

bigyabai 1y ago
GNOME Maps is good enough for me. I don't know what Carplay is and at this point I'd rather not ask.
- m4tthumphrey 1y ago
  Framework for using your cars infotainment system as your screen/input device. Android has something similar called Android Auto.
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
jraph 1y ago
Don't car play and android auto rely on proprietary libraries? I doubt it will come to Linux phones unless they take off or something like microg reimplements the proprietary parts.
Gabrys1 1y ago
There are boxes you plug to your CarPlay enabled car that run Android. Run Google Maps on that and you're golden. No need to carry/connect your phone to the car anymore
- non-nil 1y ago
  I don't think you mean a wired-to-wireless dongle, which is all my searches turn up. Can you give me an example of such a device?
  - Gabrys1 1y ago
    Oh, there's plenty of these, here's just one example: https://www.amazon.com/ATOTOOUT-Magic-Box-Built-Bluetooth/dp/B0F9389PDY https://www.amazon.com/ATOTOOUT-Magic-Box-Built-Bluetooth/dp...
    - non-nil 1y ago
      Thanks! What a fantastic keyword salad that product serves up. Not cheap, but then again why should a magic AI box be cheap?

chasil 1y ago

I use another app from F-Droid called Skytube for occasional downloads. I like it. https://f-droid.org/en/packages/free.rm.skytube.oss/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/free.rm.skytube.oss/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/free.rm.skytube.legacy.oss/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/free.rm.skytube.legacy.oss/

1vuio0pswjnm7 1y ago

"If Google ever stops signing apps like that, I'll be switching to a LInux phone." Is this another way of saying, "I will keep using it until it stops working"

extraduder_ire 1y ago

What do you mean by signing? Application signing on android is done by the developer, with their own key. Or by fdroid, in the case of apps built by fdroid in the default repository.

heavyset_go 1y ago
Things have changed. Google is doing what Apple does and implementing Gatekeeper-like signature checks to ensure only apps by Google-approved developers can run on Android. Microsoft does something similar with Windows Defender: you need to buy a developer certificate that can be revoked at any time if you want to distribute your app and have users be able to run it. We're at a point where we need permission from trillion dollar companies to run the apps we want on the hardware we own.
- 71bw 1y ago
  >Microsoft does something similar with Windows Defender: you need to buy a developer certificate that can be revoked at any time if you want to distribute your app and have users be able to run it. Clarifying: you CAN run an unsigned app just fine on Windows. A lot of freeware/"indie" (for lack of a better term for small software) programs run just fine, the only thing that happens is the user recieves a warning they have to press "Yes" on (which 95% of people do, because That's The Windows UX[patent pending]).
  - heavyset_go 1y ago
    Depends, I ran into this issue[1] a while ago with unsigned binaries. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40815488 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40815488
  - promano 1y ago
    They obfuscate it more than just pressing "Yes". You get a big warning saying Microsoft Defender has protected you, and the only clear option is "Don't run" https://cdn.advancedinstaller.com/img/prevent-smartscreen-from-appearing/microsoft-defender-smartscreen-warning.png https://cdn.advancedinstaller.com/img/prevent-smartscreen-fr... In order to run, you have to click on "More info", and then a second "Run anyway" button appears. There's way more than 5% of the Windows userbase that gets confused and can't get past this warning.