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Okay - democrats will push us in 1984 dystopia where they force you to accept that reality is what they tell you, and republicans will push us in low life high

Okay - democrats will push us in 1984 dystopia where they force you to accept that reality is what they tell you, and republicans will push us in low life high tech Cyberpunk dystopia where corporations reign supreme. Choose your poison.

buellerbueller 1y ago
oh, like that classic Democrat line "tylenol causes autism"?
- ReptileMan 1y ago
  We are talking about the same hepatotoxic compound that is absurdly easy to OD on but it gives negligible relief on stuff you should just power trough? That anecdotal - is barely better than a pacebo? Personally - I think that the two main drivers of autism are people having kids later and too high rates of smart people intermarriage. Of course Trump should not have said Tylenol, but paracetamol. And there are some very mild hints in the data that they are correlated, but not enough sigmas. And of course it could be Tylenol and something else with which ot interacts. And autism is so hard to be linked to anything because of how big the umbrella is and that we have such high delay to diagnosis that we will never know. Not taking medications when not really necessary is probably a good precaution principle
  - troyvit 1y ago
    But if he can't say "acetaminophen" how can he say "paracetamol"?
  - buellerbueller 1y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop My point is merely that the lie against reality is being perpetrated by Republicans. You never really addressed that.
  - lupusreal 1y ago
    Nobody in America says paracetamol. The generic drug is called acetaminophen in America. Anyway, it works very well for the aches and pains that come from manual labor.
- int_19h 1y ago
  Until fairly recently, stuff line anti-vax was far more common on the left. There used to be a joke that it's fairly easy to find concentrations of anti-vaxxers in US - you just need to plot locations of Whole Foods on the map and then draw a circle around each. (To be fair, though, this was never mainstream in the Democratic party the way these things are now among the Republicans.)
raddan 1y ago
Which reality is that? The real reality? Admittedly real reality is a pretty bitter pill at times.
- jacobgkau 1y ago
  Maybe the one where biological sex is imaginary. Or the one where Biden's health is good enough for another four years. You pick (or keep looking the other way and losing, to the detriment of far more important issues).
  - Jotra7 1y ago
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  - raddan 1y ago
    FWIW, like "conservatives" the stereotypes are not universal. They may not even be typical. Biological sex clearly is not a fiction; we have lots of evidence that it's not something you choose. It's also not necessarily binary, even in humans, although it is mostly binary. I also did not believe that Biden was ready for four more years, but then again, what choice did I have? I would not have voted for Trump under any circumstances, and sitting it out would be giving my vote away. You're painting with a rather broad brush. You must have at least a few liberals in your life with whom you can compare notes.
    - jacobgkau 1y ago
      > I also did not believe that Biden was ready for four more years, but then again, what choice did I have? I would not have voted for Trump under any circumstances, and sitting it out would be giving my vote away. Not sure what you mean about it being a Trump, sit out, or Biden choice when Biden wasn't an option in the final election. The choice you had was to vote for someone else in the primary, which did have plenty of other people running (albeit no major names). Of course, the better thing would've been the Democratic establishment putting a better option in front of you for the primary, so that's not directly your fault, but is the fault of "Democrats." > You're painting with a rather broad brush. As are you when you call the Democrats' reality "the real reality."

buellerbueller 1y ago

oh, like that classic Democrat line "tylenol causes autism"?

ReptileMan 1y ago
We are talking about the same hepatotoxic compound that is absurdly easy to OD on but it gives negligible relief on stuff you should just power trough? That anecdotal - is barely better than a pacebo? Personally - I think that the two main drivers of autism are people having kids later and too high rates of smart people intermarriage. Of course Trump should not have said Tylenol, but paracetamol. And there are some very mild hints in the data that they are correlated, but not enough sigmas. And of course it could be Tylenol and something else with which ot interacts. And autism is so hard to be linked to anything because of how big the umbrella is and that we have such high delay to diagnosis that we will never know. Not taking medications when not really necessary is probably a good precaution principle
- troyvit 1y ago
  But if he can't say "acetaminophen" how can he say "paracetamol"?
- buellerbueller 1y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop My point is merely that the lie against reality is being perpetrated by Republicans. You never really addressed that.
- lupusreal 1y ago
  Nobody in America says paracetamol. The generic drug is called acetaminophen in America. Anyway, it works very well for the aches and pains that come from manual labor.
int_19h 1y ago
Until fairly recently, stuff line anti-vax was far more common on the left. There used to be a joke that it's fairly easy to find concentrations of anti-vaxxers in US - you just need to plot locations of Whole Foods on the map and then draw a circle around each. (To be fair, though, this was never mainstream in the Democratic party the way these things are now among the Republicans.)

raddan 1y ago

Which reality is that? The real reality? Admittedly real reality is a pretty bitter pill at times.

jacobgkau 1y ago
Maybe the one where biological sex is imaginary. Or the one where Biden's health is good enough for another four years. You pick (or keep looking the other way and losing, to the detriment of far more important issues).
- Jotra7 1y ago
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- raddan 1y ago
  FWIW, like "conservatives" the stereotypes are not universal. They may not even be typical. Biological sex clearly is not a fiction; we have lots of evidence that it's not something you choose. It's also not necessarily binary, even in humans, although it is mostly binary. I also did not believe that Biden was ready for four more years, but then again, what choice did I have? I would not have voted for Trump under any circumstances, and sitting it out would be giving my vote away. You're painting with a rather broad brush. You must have at least a few liberals in your life with whom you can compare notes.
  - jacobgkau 1y ago
    > I also did not believe that Biden was ready for four more years, but then again, what choice did I have? I would not have voted for Trump under any circumstances, and sitting it out would be giving my vote away. Not sure what you mean about it being a Trump, sit out, or Biden choice when Biden wasn't an option in the final election. The choice you had was to vote for someone else in the primary, which did have plenty of other people running (albeit no major names). Of course, the better thing would've been the Democratic establishment putting a better option in front of you for the primary, so that's not directly your fault, but is the fault of "Democrats." > You're painting with a rather broad brush. As are you when you call the Democrats' reality "the real reality."