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Asking families if their teenager could be seated separately is one thing, but knowing the airlines, they might as well start seating the toddlers in the overhe

Asking families if their teenager could be seated separately is one thing, but knowing the airlines, they might as well start seating the toddlers in the overhead luggage compartments.

bthrn 1y ago
The most profitable way to fill a plane would be to knock everybody out and just pile them up in the fuselage.
- SoftTalker 1y ago
  Don't forget that some airlines seriously looked at standing "seats" for short hop flights.
- ceejayoz 1y ago
  The Fifth Element solution!
- mrinterweb 1y ago
  You and I should talk :) I've been thinking of this ever since seeing the movie "The Incredible Burt Wonderstone". He uses a sleeping gas on his audience packs them into a moving truck and "magically" transports his audience to a new location. Tada! Basically same idea, but substitute moving truck with jet.
- rtkwe 1y ago
  Knocking someone out safely isn't cheap. There's a reason anesthesiologists are so highly paid. Just ask the hostages from Dubrovka Theater [0] how improvising an anesthetic gas can go (spoiler: you'll need a medium/ouija board). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis
  - nostrademons 1y ago
    So then just pile them up without knocking them out.
    - nemomarx 1y ago
      Can you fit more people in horizontal than if they stood up and you had little straps to hang onto like a subway?
      - nostrademons 1y ago
        In theory yes because you can use the space at the top that would otherwise be above people's heads. No guarantee they get to their destination alive though.
        rtkwe 1y ago
        Once you include space to get people to the restroom though and to allow them to breath during the flight I think you get a higher density while standing vs laying down.
      - butlike 1y ago
        You can just lay them ass-to-mouth and then stack them. Come on, the slave ships and Dutch East India company taught us that one.
- tavavex 1y ago
  That's still way too inefficient, it leaves so many gaps and barely tiles the space. As soon as we get our hands on full reconstruction, you can bet the airlines will require everyone to be ground into a slurry and pumped into the fuselage like a huge tank, and get reassembled at the destination.
- bluGill 1y ago
  Only a new airplane. Most planes are designed for a lot of air and couldn't fly with as many people as can physically fit inside. Cargo airplanes carefully watch this factor. As a passenger I've been on airplanes that took off with empty seats even though there were people on standby wanting to get on because with the weather they couldn't fly a full plane.
- Yeul 1y ago
  Imagine waking up on your 20 hour flight to Tokyo early...
markovs_gun 1y ago
People think I'm crazy for saying this but the only thing stopping big corporations from hiring hitmen to just actually murder people to be more profitable is that it's illegal to do so. If it were legal for them to make you put your baby in overhead luggage you bet your ass they'd be doing it if it were profitable.
Spooky23 1y ago
That was an option in the 1950s for infants. They attached a little cot to the overhead — sort of like the changing shelf on a pack and play!
- debatem1 1y ago
  Isn't this basically just putting the kid in a tumble drier whenever you hit turbulence? Did they pad the roof and door as well?
  - margalabargala 1y ago
    Concussions hadn't been invented yet, that's why no one wore a helmet back then
  - axiolite 1y ago
    The turbulence is no worse being up high in the plane vs being down in a seat. In the 1950s, NONE of the passengers would have been using seatbelts... “When an airplane crashes, the safety belt…may become a deadly hazard.” - Scientific American Dec 1951 “The Dangerous Safety Belt” "Aviation requirements for basic safety features, including passenger safety belts, were codified in 1972" - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/air-space-magazine/how-airline-industry-got-wise-seat-belts-180978271/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/air-space-magazine/how-airlin...
- topkai22 1y ago
  You can still do this for infants on some long haul flights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8fphE1v66M&msockid=42557114997311f0b9ec3a7ca5eafe5d https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8fphE1v66M&msockid=42557114...
topkai22 1y ago
The current rule only applies to children under 14 years of age. They don't have to ask for teenagers.

Asking families if their teenager could be seated separately is one thing, but knowing the airlines, they might as well start seating the toddlers in the overhead luggage compartments.

bthrn 1y ago

The most profitable way to fill a plane would be to knock everybody out and just pile them up in the fuselage.

SoftTalker 1y ago
Don't forget that some airlines seriously looked at standing "seats" for short hop flights.
ceejayoz 1y ago
The Fifth Element solution!
mrinterweb 1y ago
You and I should talk :) I've been thinking of this ever since seeing the movie "The Incredible Burt Wonderstone". He uses a sleeping gas on his audience packs them into a moving truck and "magically" transports his audience to a new location. Tada! Basically same idea, but substitute moving truck with jet.
rtkwe 1y ago
Knocking someone out safely isn't cheap. There's a reason anesthesiologists are so highly paid. Just ask the hostages from Dubrovka Theater [0] how improvising an anesthetic gas can go (spoiler: you'll need a medium/ouija board). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis
- nostrademons 1y ago
  So then just pile them up without knocking them out.
  - nemomarx 1y ago
    Can you fit more people in horizontal than if they stood up and you had little straps to hang onto like a subway?
    - nostrademons 1y ago
      In theory yes because you can use the space at the top that would otherwise be above people's heads. No guarantee they get to their destination alive though.
      - rtkwe 1y ago
        Once you include space to get people to the restroom though and to allow them to breath during the flight I think you get a higher density while standing vs laying down.
    - butlike 1y ago
      You can just lay them ass-to-mouth and then stack them. Come on, the slave ships and Dutch East India company taught us that one.
tavavex 1y ago
That's still way too inefficient, it leaves so many gaps and barely tiles the space. As soon as we get our hands on full reconstruction, you can bet the airlines will require everyone to be ground into a slurry and pumped into the fuselage like a huge tank, and get reassembled at the destination.
bluGill 1y ago
Only a new airplane. Most planes are designed for a lot of air and couldn't fly with as many people as can physically fit inside. Cargo airplanes carefully watch this factor. As a passenger I've been on airplanes that took off with empty seats even though there were people on standby wanting to get on because with the weather they couldn't fly a full plane.
Yeul 1y ago
Imagine waking up on your 20 hour flight to Tokyo early...

markovs_gun 1y ago

People think I'm crazy for saying this but the only thing stopping big corporations from hiring hitmen to just actually murder people to be more profitable is that it's illegal to do so. If it were legal for them to make you put your baby in overhead luggage you bet your ass they'd be doing it if it were profitable.

Spooky23 1y ago

That was an option in the 1950s for infants. They attached a little cot to the overhead — sort of like the changing shelf on a pack and play!

debatem1 1y ago
Isn't this basically just putting the kid in a tumble drier whenever you hit turbulence? Did they pad the roof and door as well?
- margalabargala 1y ago
  Concussions hadn't been invented yet, that's why no one wore a helmet back then
- axiolite 1y ago
  The turbulence is no worse being up high in the plane vs being down in a seat. In the 1950s, NONE of the passengers would have been using seatbelts... “When an airplane crashes, the safety belt…may become a deadly hazard.” - Scientific American Dec 1951 “The Dangerous Safety Belt” "Aviation requirements for basic safety features, including passenger safety belts, were codified in 1972" - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/air-space-magazine/how-airline-industry-got-wise-seat-belts-180978271/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/air-space-magazine/how-airlin...
topkai22 1y ago
You can still do this for infants on some long haul flights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8fphE1v66M&msockid=42557114997311f0b9ec3a7ca5eafe5d https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8fphE1v66M&msockid=42557114...

topkai22 1y ago

The current rule only applies to children under 14 years of age. They don't have to ask for teenagers.