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Well, looking around I see more people using smartphones for anything and even not having a PC…

mrweasel 1y ago
I've seen this as well. It's getting increasingly normal, but I cannot imagine doing the same myself. There's a much bigger likelihood of me going back to a feature-phone, compared to me starting to use my phone for anything but the absolute basics.
- Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
  I used to use a feature phone and I genuinely didn't miss any of the same things. my commute is a really long ride and I just don't like using my phone in it. My dumb phone had music system and sd card (I finally managed to have that sd card fixed after an year of using that dumbphone without even an sd card for music) I just used to stare into nothingness / surrounding and think. (Yes I have edited it because I didn't used to think, I used to overthink just as I am doing right now lol) Not that productive, but my current phone is so slow that I can't even tell you guys or start telling you. It takes me 1/2 a minute just to unlock it and the only thing its truly good at is having a music player run and some occasional hackernews or pokemon showdown or youtube scrolling. But tbh, I don't have any banking apps etc. so to me there isn't thaaat much of a difference. I feel like a macbook is genuinely nice as it has that less friction and a pc is great too as compared to a phone for the most part when I am at home. My screentime is usually just some shorts that I occassionaly watch on phone when I am extremelyyy bored. I am sad that my dumb phone was in my bag one day and then it just stopped (working??) , I swear I kinda regret having my dad's old phone. I am not sure how he was even using it.
- ktosobcy 1y ago
  Same, but I also have other quirks and that doesn't mean this is TheTrueWay and everyone should adapt to it :)
nozzlegear 1y ago
Smartphones are a lot more portable than desktop PCs or even laptops. Unless you enter everyone's home to take an inventory of their devices, it stands to reason that you're going to see more smartphones than anything else by just looking around.
- bigstrat2003 1y ago
  Sure, but computers are a lot more capable. Even for just scrolling sites, a desktop computer is a superior experience.
- ktosobcy 1y ago
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  - nozzlegear 1y ago
    > Please get off of your high-horse and actually try to interact with wider world and not the IT bubble :) That seems pretty rude and uncalled for, why would you say that to me? Do you think that I don't have friends outside of the "IT bubble" myself, or that I don't have my own spouse who is a non-tech person?
    - ktosobcy 1y ago
      What's so rude and uncalled for? It's just a statement without steeping to any offensive vocabulary. And it's kidna funny that you are offended by it while you outright dismissed my comment with your "all knowing": "Unless you enter everyone's home to take an inventory of their devices, it stands to reason that you're going to see more smartphones than anything else by just looking around." - wouldn't you say that was offensive as well? But no - you feel entitled to this opinion and see nothing wrong with such silly rebutal :D
      - nozzlegear 1y ago
        > What's so rude and uncalled for? It's just a statement without steeping to any offensive vocabulary. Spare me your sophistry.
mariusor 1y ago
But as long as there are still people using desktop computers, removing access from them is an overreach and makes these ideas totally undemocratic. I am frankly baffled that an organization having the principles and know-how of the EU can even think of gating access to information with something so slipshod. The only eventuality where this is acceptable is when desktop computers won't even be gated, and then if anyone can circumvent the problem with a computer, why is anyone even bothering with the whole thing...
- bigstrat2003 1y ago
  > I am frankly baffled that an organization having the principles and know-how of the EU can even think of gating access to information with something so slipshod. That doesn't surprise me at all. Principles in a government body don't exist. They are all crooks.
  - HankStallone 1y ago
    It doesn't surprise me either, because I'd never be able to use a phrase like "the principles and know-how of the EU" with a straight face. (To be fair, you could replace "the EU" with almost any large bureaucracy.)
    - mariusor 1y ago
      Sure. But the EU is not just your average bureaucracy. It's an entity that has as one of it's specific goals the following[1]: > combat social exclusion and discrimination [1] https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-history/principles-and-values/aims-and-values_en https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-histor...
      - graemep 1y ago
        Any large bureaucracy has similarly lofty official goals
        1y ago
EvanAnderson 1y ago
The vast majority of those people are never going to know the freedom and power afforded by using a general purpose computer you actually control. The "war on general purpose computing" need only be the waiting-out for those of us who remember actually owning a computer to die.
- qiine 1y ago
  I secretly believe that the PC is simply so unbelievably powerful that its impossible to kill

I've seen this as well. It's getting increasingly normal, but I cannot imagine doing the same myself. There's a much bigger likelihood of me going back to a feature-phone, compared to me starting to use my phone for anything but the absolute basics.

Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
I used to use a feature phone and I genuinely didn't miss any of the same things. my commute is a really long ride and I just don't like using my phone in it. My dumb phone had music system and sd card (I finally managed to have that sd card fixed after an year of using that dumbphone without even an sd card for music) I just used to stare into nothingness / surrounding and think. (Yes I have edited it because I didn't used to think, I used to overthink just as I am doing right now lol) Not that productive, but my current phone is so slow that I can't even tell you guys or start telling you. It takes me 1/2 a minute just to unlock it and the only thing its truly good at is having a music player run and some occasional hackernews or pokemon showdown or youtube scrolling. But tbh, I don't have any banking apps etc. so to me there isn't thaaat much of a difference. I feel like a macbook is genuinely nice as it has that less friction and a pc is great too as compared to a phone for the most part when I am at home. My screentime is usually just some shorts that I occassionaly watch on phone when I am extremelyyy bored. I am sad that my dumb phone was in my bag one day and then it just stopped (working??) , I swear I kinda regret having my dad's old phone. I am not sure how he was even using it.
ktosobcy 1y ago
Same, but I also have other quirks and that doesn't mean this is TheTrueWay and everyone should adapt to it :)

nozzlegear 1y ago

Smartphones are a lot more portable than desktop PCs or even laptops. Unless you enter everyone's home to take an inventory of their devices, it stands to reason that you're going to see more smartphones than anything else by just looking around.

bigstrat2003 1y ago
Sure, but computers are a lot more capable. Even for just scrolling sites, a desktop computer is a superior experience.
ktosobcy 1y ago
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- nozzlegear 1y ago
  > Please get off of your high-horse and actually try to interact with wider world and not the IT bubble :) That seems pretty rude and uncalled for, why would you say that to me? Do you think that I don't have friends outside of the "IT bubble" myself, or that I don't have my own spouse who is a non-tech person?
  - ktosobcy 1y ago
    What's so rude and uncalled for? It's just a statement without steeping to any offensive vocabulary. And it's kidna funny that you are offended by it while you outright dismissed my comment with your "all knowing": "Unless you enter everyone's home to take an inventory of their devices, it stands to reason that you're going to see more smartphones than anything else by just looking around." - wouldn't you say that was offensive as well? But no - you feel entitled to this opinion and see nothing wrong with such silly rebutal :D
    - nozzlegear 1y ago
      > What's so rude and uncalled for? It's just a statement without steeping to any offensive vocabulary. Spare me your sophistry.

mariusor 1y ago

But as long as there are still people using desktop computers, removing access from them is an overreach and makes these ideas totally undemocratic. I am frankly baffled that an organization having the principles and know-how of the EU can even think of gating access to information with something so slipshod. The only eventuality where this is acceptable is when desktop computers won't even be gated, and then if anyone can circumvent the problem with a computer, why is anyone even bothering with the whole thing...

bigstrat2003 1y ago
> I am frankly baffled that an organization having the principles and know-how of the EU can even think of gating access to information with something so slipshod. That doesn't surprise me at all. Principles in a government body don't exist. They are all crooks.
- HankStallone 1y ago
  It doesn't surprise me either, because I'd never be able to use a phrase like "the principles and know-how of the EU" with a straight face. (To be fair, you could replace "the EU" with almost any large bureaucracy.)
  - mariusor 1y ago
    Sure. But the EU is not just your average bureaucracy. It's an entity that has as one of it's specific goals the following[1]: > combat social exclusion and discrimination [1] https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-history/principles-and-values/aims-and-values_en https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-histor...
    - graemep 1y ago
      Any large bureaucracy has similarly lofty official goals
      - 1y ago

EvanAnderson 1y ago

The vast majority of those people are never going to know the freedom and power afforded by using a general purpose computer you actually control. The "war on general purpose computing" need only be the waiting-out for those of us who remember actually owning a computer to die.

qiine 1y ago
I secretly believe that the PC is simply so unbelievably powerful that its impossible to kill