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Oh no, this will feed the "aura" BSers
by ochronus 1y ago
Oh no, this will feed the "aura" BSers
- aa-jv 1y agoCorollary: it'll give the materialism jerks something to think about.
- ochronus 1y agosuch as?
- aa-jv 1y agoSuch as, maybe there's more to life than just chemical reactions.
- ochronus 1y agoMore, how? Come on, be more exact.
- jodrellblank 1y agoYou be more exact; I’ve spent plenty of time in internet woo-woo ideas and I don’t think I’ve heard of auras since the nineties, reading about Kirlian photographs from a hundred years before that. Here you are saying that some unspecified group is deriving some unspecified ideas which are, you claim, life riskingly serious. Just for the sake of making HN interesting to read, can you stop with the one sentence comments that vaguely imply you know something we don’t, and be more exact, explanatory and specific?
- ochronus 1y agono ;)
- Antibabelic 1y agoAre you implying the light discussed in the paper is supernatural?
- maleldil 1y agoWhere is the indication that this light (which is barely visible to instruments, let alone humans) does not come from "just chemical reactions"? This finding is certainly interesting, but it does not at all contribute to "spiritual thinking".
- I_Lorem 1y agoBioluminescence IS a natural chemical reaction, though.
- richrichardsson 1y agoThat perhaps the people who claim to see auras were in fact telling the truth due to having the right genetics to be able to observe this light.
- viraptor 1y agoThey don't. It's normal visible light spectrum, just extremely weak. Nobody can see it with their eyes.
- Aerroon 1y agoSupposedly the human eye can detect a single photon under the right conditions though.
- viraptor 1y agoNot really... https://www.technologyreview.com/2017/08/08/105518/the-thorny-question-of-whether-humans-can-observe-single-photons/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2017/08/08/105518/the-thorn... Or, yes, under ideal conditions, maybe sometimes. 51.6% chance of being right in a yes/no question will not help in this case.
- codr7 1y agoNobody is a pretty strong claim. Human bodies are different in many ways.
- viraptor 1y agoThis is like saying: "Nobody can jump over this 200m wall. - Nobody is a pretty strong claim." It's really beyond the scope of human vision overall, rather than "really hard".
- moralestapia 1y agoThose are ... two different things? People can pick up single photons, this is definitely within the realm of possibility. Btw, your level zero snark can be defeated by the "on which planet?" argument.
- nurettin 1y agoYes, "how will scammers use this information to trick people into woowoo?" But we already have plenty to think about.
- Dilettante_ 1y agoGod forbid we take something "magical" and extract the real Truth from it? Like, if this is a piece of evidence, aren't you happy to update your assumptions?
- slightwinder 1y agoSadly, that's not how it works. Those nutheads are twisting everything to their convenience, and sell it to idiots, even at the cost of someone's live. And any "proof" of their BS is just solidifying all the other BS.
- Dilettante_ 1y agoYou have a one-dimensional view of your "opponents". Not everybody who is into spiritual BS is preying on suckers, or a sucker being preyed upon. The thinking that preceded our current understanding of physical elements was very loose and woo-woo(Water, Earth, Wind, Fire), but we refined.
- slightwinder 1y agoI never claimed that everyone is doing this. Are you reflecting?
- h33t-l4x0r 1y agoYou did though. You said "those nutheads". Not "some of those nutheads"
- slightwinder 1y agoYes, those nutheads who are twisting it, not all nutheads who are in spiritual stuff. There are many old and ancient creeds which are barely changing for decades and centuries. Those can be also problematic, but usually their believers are more pragmatic and won't tell you how you can cure cancer by just praying hard enough while sipping the 200 dollar tea they sell you.
- throwaway4302 1y agoI don't believe in auras, but perhaps some of these photons are picked up by human brains unconsciously, even though it can not be seen "directly". Those that sense it feel special because it is not common, and may use supernatural explanations, when it is really just a natural phenomenon.
- ochronus 1y agoYup, could be! My problem is not with that, but rather the things they seem to "derive" from this.
- stocksinsmocks 1y agoThat one has to use a throwaway to avoid losing HN good boy points from the bitter fedora-posters is a shame.
- codr7 1y agoNo one ever claimed that auras weren't natural, just frequencies that most people can't see. Everything vibrates, even physical matter, we've just agreed to experience some frequencies differently.
- Thiez 1y agoIf humans could detect this light then we could see living things in otherwise complete darkness. But we cannot. So it stands to reason that these photons do not explain "auras", and "It's just your imagination" remains the best explanation for auras. Perhaps they are based on simple after-images: if you stare at something long enough the color detecting cells in your eyes get tired and you start seeing weird visual effects that seem to match how people describe "auras".