Agree, the build systems around Java have become absurdly complicated, but as an overall offering Java and JVM remains pretty compelling for lots of work, parti

Agree, the build systems around Java have become absurdly complicated, but as an overall offering Java and JVM remains pretty compelling for lots of work, particular on a large team, as you say, where Java can be the "least bad option" in terms of getting a diverse group of people to learn it.