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You don't need to carry water for racists and invent more palatable explanations for what they said. There's nothing in there about not enough British people -

by fwip 1y ago

You don't need to carry water for racists and invent more palatable explanations for what they said. There's nothing in there about not enough British people - only about too many foreigners (whom he can tell by looking at them).

zahlman 1y ago
> There's nothing in there about not enough British people - only about too many foreigners It's the same thing, because the motivation for the immigration policy, per the people implementing it, is to avoid demographic collapse. Generally too many people can also reasonably be considered a problem, if the intended solution to the social services problem is endless exponential growth. Especially on an island. > (whom he can tell by looking at them) There are different ethnicities of "white people" who can be told apart by looking. So "he can tell by looking" does not mean that he is applying a racial standard. Your argument depends on a notion that English, Italians, Germans etc. "all look the same". But last I checked, people who would say the same about, for example, Chinese, Japanese and Koreans would be called racist for that.
- flykespice 1y ago
  > There are different ethnicities of "white people" who can be told apart by looking. So "he can tell by looking" does not mean that he is applying a racial standard. damn, you are really catching the straws here to defend a racist It's obvious he meant brown people or anyone that isn't white/european looking. There is no genetically pure or distinct native British phenotye to set apart other europeans. Europeans have been mixing themselves for centuries, he obviously knew what he was talking about (non-whites)
  - zahlman 1y ago
    I refer you back to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45386018 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45386018. What you say is "obvious" is your completely unsubstantiated perception. > There is no genetically pure or distinct native British phenotye to set apart other europeans. Nevertheless, such ancestry can be reliably determined by genetic testing, and Europeans do recognize it by sight. https://blog.23andme.com/articles/23andme-adds-more-detail-for-customers-with-british-and-irish-ancestry https://blog.23andme.com/articles/23andme-adds-more-detail-f....

by fwip 1y ago

zahlman 1y ago

> There's nothing in there about not enough British people - only about too many foreigners It's the same thing, because the motivation for the immigration policy, per the people implementing it, is to avoid demographic collapse. Generally too many people can also reasonably be considered a problem, if the intended solution to the social services problem is endless exponential growth. Especially on an island. > (whom he can tell by looking at them) There are different ethnicities of "white people" who can be told apart by looking. So "he can tell by looking" does not mean that he is applying a racial standard. Your argument depends on a notion that English, Italians, Germans etc. "all look the same". But last I checked, people who would say the same about, for example, Chinese, Japanese and Koreans would be called racist for that.

flykespice 1y ago
> There are different ethnicities of "white people" who can be told apart by looking. So "he can tell by looking" does not mean that he is applying a racial standard. damn, you are really catching the straws here to defend a racist It's obvious he meant brown people or anyone that isn't white/european looking. There is no genetically pure or distinct native British phenotye to set apart other europeans. Europeans have been mixing themselves for centuries, he obviously knew what he was talking about (non-whites)
- zahlman 1y ago
  I refer you back to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45386018 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45386018. What you say is "obvious" is your completely unsubstantiated perception. > There is no genetically pure or distinct native British phenotye to set apart other europeans. Nevertheless, such ancestry can be reliably determined by genetic testing, and Europeans do recognize it by sight. https://blog.23andme.com/articles/23andme-adds-more-detail-for-customers-with-british-and-irish-ancestry https://blog.23andme.com/articles/23andme-adds-more-detail-f....