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Can you tell my why I should consider ghostty? (as a daily Terminal.app user)

PyWoody 1y ago
It's fast. Like, faster than your brain expects it to be. I live in vim and after about 30 seconds of checking ghostty out I switched from iTerm2 to ghostty for good. No regerts.
- loeg 1y ago
  I use terminology today, which is also "fast." The major issue I run into with ghostty vs terminology is that ssh in ghostty is broken due to the terminfo thing. I don't fully understand why ghostty can't pretend to be a different terminal that remotes know about (for now), but I assume there's some reason.
  - PyWoody 1y ago
    Have you tried the suggestions in https://ghostty.org/docs/help/terminfo#ssh https://ghostty.org/docs/help/terminfo#ssh? I don't know what issue you may be experiencing but this solved my issue with using htop in an ssh session.
    - robenkleene 1y ago
      For another approach, personally I found just doing `TERM=xterm-256color ssh <server>` more practical than the solutions at https://ghostty.org/docs/help/terminfo#ssh https://ghostty.org/docs/help/terminfo#ssh
      - loeg 1y ago
        That is essentially the 2nd solution recommended. I think ghostty could do this itself as a hack. If the target binary is ssh (heuristic, but, ok), inject TERM=xterm-256color into env of the child process at launch. I guess it isn't a huge deal to have every user to modify their ssh_config instead, but it's an ergonomic pain point for many new users.
    - loeg 1y ago
      Copying terminfo around is more inconvenient than I want to put up with for now. Overriding TERM is fine, I guess. Mostly terminology is just a fairly good terminal, so I have little incentive to switch. :)
zenlot 1y ago
Fast. Very fast. Good configuration and theming options too. Literally no lag, even with thousands of lines scrollback. It doesn't get in your way on your day to day terminal activities. Feels natural.
micampe 1y ago
Everyone telling you that it's fast because iTerm2 is slow. Terminal.app is already faster than iTerm2 and on par o very close to most other alternatives in terms of speed. I also used Terminal until recently and don't use any of the advanced features alternatives provide. The main reason to switch from Terminal.app is truecolor support. The terminfo thing is annoying but I just setenv TERM in ssh config. Better split panes is nice. Configuration in a text file is a matter of taste, but documentation is good.
- robenkleene 1y ago
  macOS Tahoe adds true color support to Terminal.app https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/16/apples-terminal-app-macos-tahoe/ https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/16/apples-terminal-app-mac...

It's fast. Like, faster than your brain expects it to be. I live in vim and after about 30 seconds of checking ghostty out I switched from iTerm2 to ghostty for good. No regerts.

loeg 1y ago
I use terminology today, which is also "fast." The major issue I run into with ghostty vs terminology is that ssh in ghostty is broken due to the terminfo thing. I don't fully understand why ghostty can't pretend to be a different terminal that remotes know about (for now), but I assume there's some reason.
- PyWoody 1y ago
  Have you tried the suggestions in https://ghostty.org/docs/help/terminfo#ssh https://ghostty.org/docs/help/terminfo#ssh? I don't know what issue you may be experiencing but this solved my issue with using htop in an ssh session.
  - robenkleene 1y ago
    For another approach, personally I found just doing `TERM=xterm-256color ssh <server>` more practical than the solutions at https://ghostty.org/docs/help/terminfo#ssh https://ghostty.org/docs/help/terminfo#ssh
    - loeg 1y ago
      That is essentially the 2nd solution recommended. I think ghostty could do this itself as a hack. If the target binary is ssh (heuristic, but, ok), inject TERM=xterm-256color into env of the child process at launch. I guess it isn't a huge deal to have every user to modify their ssh_config instead, but it's an ergonomic pain point for many new users.
  - loeg 1y ago
    Copying terminfo around is more inconvenient than I want to put up with for now. Overriding TERM is fine, I guess. Mostly terminology is just a fairly good terminal, so I have little incentive to switch. :)

zenlot 1y ago

Fast. Very fast. Good configuration and theming options too. Literally no lag, even with thousands of lines scrollback. It doesn't get in your way on your day to day terminal activities. Feels natural.

micampe 1y ago

Everyone telling you that it's fast because iTerm2 is slow. Terminal.app is already faster than iTerm2 and on par o very close to most other alternatives in terms of speed. I also used Terminal until recently and don't use any of the advanced features alternatives provide. The main reason to switch from Terminal.app is truecolor support. The terminfo thing is annoying but I just setenv TERM in ssh config. Better split panes is nice. Configuration in a text file is a matter of taste, but documentation is good.

robenkleene 1y ago
macOS Tahoe adds true color support to Terminal.app https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/16/apples-terminal-app-macos-tahoe/ https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/16/apples-terminal-app-mac...