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I think that term gets tossed around too much flippantly - if you've ever ran into real white supremacists they are a magnitude more scary and dangerous than DH

by gedy 1y ago

I think that term gets tossed around too much flippantly - if you've ever ran into real white supremacists they are a magnitude more scary and dangerous than DHH's dopey opinion.

JohnBooty 1y ago
Regardless of whether or not that's the correct term for DHH.... real white supremacists they are a magnitude more scary and dangerous than DHH's dopey opinion I would like to caution you against the use of the term "real" white supremacists. Are you imagining a "real" white supremacist as guy who burns crosses, is covered with racist tattoos, and openly spouts slurs? Because the effective and dangerous ones are a hell of a lot more stealthy than that. Racism in general, including white supremacy, is more accurately viewed as a spectrum and not a binary racist/non-racist divide.
- gedy 1y ago
  > viewed as a spectrum and not a binary racist/non-racist divide That's exactly my point why I suggest not watering down the term white supremacy with "I hate this annoying opinion when I interpret it maximally". Calling DHH a white supremacist is silly.
  - queenkjuul 1y ago
    He went on the Internet and said London is worse because it's less white than before. That's at least mild white supremacism
habinero 1y ago
No, the dopey ones are just as bad. They legitimize having bigoted opinions, and having bigoted opinions towards immigrants in an industry founded on immigrants is both short-sighted and not something anyone should support. Nobody ever gets cancelled for actual conservative values like lower taxes and limited government. They get kicked out for being hateful.
BizarroLand 1y ago
Racism isn't boogeymen in white robes hanging people. It's kindly old ladies whose smile disappears the instant they lock onto a brown kid in the grocery store. It's bosses who somehow find a good reason to not give a non-white person a pay raise or time off. It's ordinary people who feel uncomfortable when they encounter people who look different and then they act different towards them. The grand majority of racism is invisible. It's a constant pressure on people who do not perfectly fit into the culture that reminds them that if they do not meet the mark of what that group of people expect from them then the consequences will be extreme. When you are not white and live in a town of generically racist white people, there are countless small things that happen that continuously remind you that your presence is under surveillance and that your permission to exist peacefully in "their" space is an act of grace that you must forever be grateful for. This is something that can be explained to anyone ad nauseum, but until they experience it for themselves it sounds like bs. It's so easy to ignore that most people forget this as soon as their eyes are not looking at these words.
- gedy 1y ago
  I don't disagree with anything you've said. Just that calling DHH a white supremacist is an exaggeration. It waters down the meaning, and not sure what's left to describe violent street thugs in discourse, I guess "LiTerAL nAZis"?
  - BizarroLand 1y ago
    I mean, his words are the words of a white supremacist. His ideals are the ideals of a white supremacist. Just because he isn't calling for war, murder, famine, pestilence, plague, death, and the fourth Reich all to fall on people of other colors does not mean that he isn't a white supremacist. Like I said. It's easy to overlook. No one should long for a "pure" society. There are no pure humans on this planet outside of a select group of african people who never interbred with neanderthal or denisovians, and as the last bastion of "pure" humans they seem fairly well content to not enforce their superiority on other people. https://www.universityherald.com/articles/70130/20170321/harvard-researcher-says-africans-are-100-pure-human-than-the-rest.htm https://www.universityherald.com/articles/70130/20170321/har... So, let's all just be mutts and get along. Love who you love. Live where you want to live. And let other people do whatever the hell they want to do as long as it does not hurt anyone.

by gedy 1y ago

I think that term gets tossed around too much flippantly - if you've ever ran into real white supremacists they are a magnitude more scary and dangerous than DHH's dopey opinion.

JohnBooty 1y ago

Regardless of whether or not that's the correct term for DHH.... real white supremacists they are a magnitude more scary and dangerous than DHH's dopey opinion I would like to caution you against the use of the term "real" white supremacists. Are you imagining a "real" white supremacist as guy who burns crosses, is covered with racist tattoos, and openly spouts slurs? Because the effective and dangerous ones are a hell of a lot more stealthy than that. Racism in general, including white supremacy, is more accurately viewed as a spectrum and not a binary racist/non-racist divide.

gedy 1y ago
> viewed as a spectrum and not a binary racist/non-racist divide That's exactly my point why I suggest not watering down the term white supremacy with "I hate this annoying opinion when I interpret it maximally". Calling DHH a white supremacist is silly.
- queenkjuul 1y ago
  He went on the Internet and said London is worse because it's less white than before. That's at least mild white supremacism

habinero 1y ago

No, the dopey ones are just as bad. They legitimize having bigoted opinions, and having bigoted opinions towards immigrants in an industry founded on immigrants is both short-sighted and not something anyone should support. Nobody ever gets cancelled for actual conservative values like lower taxes and limited government. They get kicked out for being hateful.

BizarroLand 1y ago

Racism isn't boogeymen in white robes hanging people. It's kindly old ladies whose smile disappears the instant they lock onto a brown kid in the grocery store. It's bosses who somehow find a good reason to not give a non-white person a pay raise or time off. It's ordinary people who feel uncomfortable when they encounter people who look different and then they act different towards them. The grand majority of racism is invisible. It's a constant pressure on people who do not perfectly fit into the culture that reminds them that if they do not meet the mark of what that group of people expect from them then the consequences will be extreme. When you are not white and live in a town of generically racist white people, there are countless small things that happen that continuously remind you that your presence is under surveillance and that your permission to exist peacefully in "their" space is an act of grace that you must forever be grateful for. This is something that can be explained to anyone ad nauseum, but until they experience it for themselves it sounds like bs. It's so easy to ignore that most people forget this as soon as their eyes are not looking at these words.

gedy 1y ago
I don't disagree with anything you've said. Just that calling DHH a white supremacist is an exaggeration. It waters down the meaning, and not sure what's left to describe violent street thugs in discourse, I guess "LiTerAL nAZis"?
- BizarroLand 1y ago
  I mean, his words are the words of a white supremacist. His ideals are the ideals of a white supremacist. Just because he isn't calling for war, murder, famine, pestilence, plague, death, and the fourth Reich all to fall on people of other colors does not mean that he isn't a white supremacist. Like I said. It's easy to overlook. No one should long for a "pure" society. There are no pure humans on this planet outside of a select group of african people who never interbred with neanderthal or denisovians, and as the last bastion of "pure" humans they seem fairly well content to not enforce their superiority on other people. https://www.universityherald.com/articles/70130/20170321/harvard-researcher-says-africans-are-100-pure-human-than-the-rest.htm https://www.universityherald.com/articles/70130/20170321/har... So, let's all just be mutts and get along. Love who you love. Live where you want to live. And let other people do whatever the hell they want to do as long as it does not hurt anyone.