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I read the DHH post in question: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64. It is pretty s

I read the DHH post in question: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64. It is pretty standard anti-immigrant. It feels like it is acknowledging the fact that the populations of Western countries are in a demographic crisis, they are sub-replacement in terms of fertility but instead of fixing that he just wants to ban immigrants. It feels like fixing the fertility issue would solve the root issue.

lbrito 1y ago
That is always the case with this kind of rant. People want to have the cake and eat it too.
fwip 1y ago
You don't need to carry water for racists and invent more palatable explanations for what they said. There's nothing in there about not enough British people - only about too many foreigners (whom he can tell by looking at them).
- zahlman 1y ago
  > There's nothing in there about not enough British people - only about too many foreigners It's the same thing, because the motivation for the immigration policy, per the people implementing it, is to avoid demographic collapse. Generally too many people can also reasonably be considered a problem, if the intended solution to the social services problem is endless exponential growth. Especially on an island. > (whom he can tell by looking at them) There are different ethnicities of "white people" who can be told apart by looking. So "he can tell by looking" does not mean that he is applying a racial standard. Your argument depends on a notion that English, Italians, Germans etc. "all look the same". But last I checked, people who would say the same about, for example, Chinese, Japanese and Koreans would be called racist for that.
  - flykespice 1y ago
    > There are different ethnicities of "white people" who can be told apart by looking. So "he can tell by looking" does not mean that he is applying a racial standard. damn, you are really catching the straws here to defend a racist It's obvious he meant brown people or anyone that isn't white/european looking. There is no genetically pure or distinct native British phenotye to set apart other europeans. Europeans have been mixing themselves for centuries, he obviously knew what he was talking about (non-whites)
    - zahlman 1y ago
      I refer you back to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45386018 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45386018. What you say is "obvious" is your completely unsubstantiated perception. > There is no genetically pure or distinct native British phenotye to set apart other europeans. Nevertheless, such ancestry can be reliably determined by genetic testing, and Europeans do recognize it by sight. https://blog.23andme.com/articles/23andme-adds-more-detail-for-customers-with-british-and-irish-ancestry https://blog.23andme.com/articles/23andme-adds-more-detail-f....
gsinclair 1y ago
He wrote another blog post promoting fertility, so at least he’s consistent.
- bhouston 1y ago
  Promoting sustainable fertility is good in my books. We need sustainable fertility like we need sustainable environmentalism, and similar things. I strongly believe that low fertility causes immigration backlash because some governments try to maintain their population by importing immigrants rather than fixing the fertility issue and a low fertility causes the domestic population to be insecure (e.g. "replacement theory") in the face of the immigrants. Some immigration combined with sustainable fertility is the solution.

lbrito 1y ago

That is always the case with this kind of rant. People want to have the cake and eat it too.

fwip 1y ago

You don't need to carry water for racists and invent more palatable explanations for what they said. There's nothing in there about not enough British people - only about too many foreigners (whom he can tell by looking at them).

zahlman 1y ago
> There's nothing in there about not enough British people - only about too many foreigners It's the same thing, because the motivation for the immigration policy, per the people implementing it, is to avoid demographic collapse. Generally too many people can also reasonably be considered a problem, if the intended solution to the social services problem is endless exponential growth. Especially on an island. > (whom he can tell by looking at them) There are different ethnicities of "white people" who can be told apart by looking. So "he can tell by looking" does not mean that he is applying a racial standard. Your argument depends on a notion that English, Italians, Germans etc. "all look the same". But last I checked, people who would say the same about, for example, Chinese, Japanese and Koreans would be called racist for that.
- flykespice 1y ago
  > There are different ethnicities of "white people" who can be told apart by looking. So "he can tell by looking" does not mean that he is applying a racial standard. damn, you are really catching the straws here to defend a racist It's obvious he meant brown people or anyone that isn't white/european looking. There is no genetically pure or distinct native British phenotye to set apart other europeans. Europeans have been mixing themselves for centuries, he obviously knew what he was talking about (non-whites)
  - zahlman 1y ago
    I refer you back to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45386018 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45386018. What you say is "obvious" is your completely unsubstantiated perception. > There is no genetically pure or distinct native British phenotye to set apart other europeans. Nevertheless, such ancestry can be reliably determined by genetic testing, and Europeans do recognize it by sight. https://blog.23andme.com/articles/23andme-adds-more-detail-for-customers-with-british-and-irish-ancestry https://blog.23andme.com/articles/23andme-adds-more-detail-f....

gsinclair 1y ago

He wrote another blog post promoting fertility, so at least he’s consistent.

bhouston 1y ago
Promoting sustainable fertility is good in my books. We need sustainable fertility like we need sustainable environmentalism, and similar things. I strongly believe that low fertility causes immigration backlash because some governments try to maintain their population by importing immigrants rather than fixing the fertility issue and a low fertility causes the domestic population to be insecure (e.g. "replacement theory") in the face of the immigrants. Some immigration combined with sustainable fertility is the solution.