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I'm about 98% certain this is simply a ploy to put autistic people on a list for future abuses. In today's political climate, nobody should be revealing their

I'm about 98% certain this is simply a ploy to put autistic people on a list for future abuses. In today's political climate, nobody should be revealing their autism status to anyone remotely connected to any level of government. Nor should one trust any sort of medical advice or reporting from same. Our government is explicitly targeting minorities of all sorts for abuse and persecution. Now is, unfortunately, the time to hide and weather the storm. That or flee to another country with a functioning society. Please protect your autistic children and friends. Times are real, real bad for them right now.

incomingpain 1y ago
>I'm about 98% certain this is simply a ploy to put autistic people on a list for future abuses. I'm a foreigner, not even in the USA. Your politics are melting down but I feel like the FDA isn't tracking or seeking to harm you. >In today's political climate, nobody should be revealing their autism status to anyone remotely connected to any level of government. Nor should one trust any sort of medical advice or reporting from same. Our government is explicitly targeting minorities of all sorts for abuse and persecution. Pretty strong argument against socialized medicine. Here in Canada the government actively tracks each of these. For example to get the covid shot, they wanted to know about my autism, non-binary/trans etc. They werent just asking everyone this, I didnt bring it up because why would it matter? I was in their system. I also happen to know this data is being transferred out of country to CDSI; ASN 23498. >Now is, unfortunately, the time to hide and weather the storm. That or flee to another country with a functioning society. I dont think you need to flee the usa. Canada has drastically reduced migration, you dont want to come here. Europe maybe?
- heffer 1y ago
  > I also happen to know this data is being transferred out of country to CDSI; ASN 23498 CDSI is Cogeco Data Services, Inc., a Canadian ISP, which later became Aptum, which in turn was acquired by Beanfield, also a Canadian ISP (the founder Dan Armstrong is actually well known in the internet community in Canada) that operates AS23498. So I don't see how this would prove your data is leaving the country.
  - apercu 1y ago
    Um. This is weird. I know Dan (and the entire Beanfield team, at least the old guard of 10-15 years ago). Do we know each other? I was in 67 Mowat (aka Carpet Factory) off and on for a long while....
    - heffer 1y ago
      Pretty sure we don't know each other. I am a fairly recent addition to the country (2019) but we've worked with Dan and Beanfield during COVID when we put together a server for Folding@Home in our office to help them with the huge increase in load due to interest in the COVID research they were doing. Beanfield sponsors the pipe and we donated the hardware and rackspace. That server (the only Canadian one), by the way, is still running to this day. We also came up with the WiFi@Toronto project which a paper says reduced the spread of COVID in those neighbourhoods by 14.4% (https://utoronto.scholaris.ca/items/f542d219-7abe-4918-846f-f19993e4b066 https://utoronto.scholaris.ca/items/f542d219-7abe-4918-846f-...). Again, Beanfield sponsored the pipe to exit all the traffic onto the internet and we sponsored the networking equipment and were the ones installing the APs on rooftops.
      - apercu 1y ago
        Cool project! You're probably right - I haven't been in the Liberty Village area much since 2014, and moved to the US in 2022.
lupusreal 1y ago
> I'm about 98% certain this is simply a ploy to put autistic people on a list for future abuses. Yes I think so. And I think they'll want to target people with autism particularly because people with autism are less likely to go with the flow, they question social customs and traditions that other people take for granted. Why do I have to wear a tie, what practical purpose does it serve? Why do I have to put forks on one side of the plate and knives on the other? Etc. Lower conformity to social norms, and a preference for precise and literal information. This tendency makes people with autism somewhat resistant (but not immune) to most normal forms of propaganda. This scares power hungry politicians.
- BrandoElFollito 1y ago
  > Lower conformity to social norms There is a blurry line that delimitates there "intolerent stiff society" from "chaos". Social norms are also there to keep some coherence in the society. Some should (not can, should) be challenged but how and which is not ready to define. Ties? Sure. What you wear? Sure. Whether you wear anything? Suu..euuh..re? Whether you wash yourself? We can challenge a bit yeah, but not too much, etc. I like eccentric people (being a bit one myself) but I also acknowledge that some irrational social norms are needed for cohesion. I cannot quantitively say which ones, though.
joquarky 1y ago
Just my non-scientific observations here, but it seems to me that most of the autistic people I've met tend to subtly call out people's bullshit more than the average person. It seems like some powerful contemporary political entities are highly averse to being called out, especially if it's a subtle jab that goes under their radar.

incomingpain 1y ago

>I'm about 98% certain this is simply a ploy to put autistic people on a list for future abuses. I'm a foreigner, not even in the USA. Your politics are melting down but I feel like the FDA isn't tracking or seeking to harm you. >In today's political climate, nobody should be revealing their autism status to anyone remotely connected to any level of government. Nor should one trust any sort of medical advice or reporting from same. Our government is explicitly targeting minorities of all sorts for abuse and persecution. Pretty strong argument against socialized medicine. Here in Canada the government actively tracks each of these. For example to get the covid shot, they wanted to know about my autism, non-binary/trans etc. They werent just asking everyone this, I didnt bring it up because why would it matter? I was in their system. I also happen to know this data is being transferred out of country to CDSI; ASN 23498. >Now is, unfortunately, the time to hide and weather the storm. That or flee to another country with a functioning society. I dont think you need to flee the usa. Canada has drastically reduced migration, you dont want to come here. Europe maybe?

heffer 1y ago
> I also happen to know this data is being transferred out of country to CDSI; ASN 23498 CDSI is Cogeco Data Services, Inc., a Canadian ISP, which later became Aptum, which in turn was acquired by Beanfield, also a Canadian ISP (the founder Dan Armstrong is actually well known in the internet community in Canada) that operates AS23498. So I don't see how this would prove your data is leaving the country.
- apercu 1y ago
  Um. This is weird. I know Dan (and the entire Beanfield team, at least the old guard of 10-15 years ago). Do we know each other? I was in 67 Mowat (aka Carpet Factory) off and on for a long while....
  - heffer 1y ago
    Pretty sure we don't know each other. I am a fairly recent addition to the country (2019) but we've worked with Dan and Beanfield during COVID when we put together a server for Folding@Home in our office to help them with the huge increase in load due to interest in the COVID research they were doing. Beanfield sponsors the pipe and we donated the hardware and rackspace. That server (the only Canadian one), by the way, is still running to this day. We also came up with the WiFi@Toronto project which a paper says reduced the spread of COVID in those neighbourhoods by 14.4% (https://utoronto.scholaris.ca/items/f542d219-7abe-4918-846f-f19993e4b066 https://utoronto.scholaris.ca/items/f542d219-7abe-4918-846f-...). Again, Beanfield sponsored the pipe to exit all the traffic onto the internet and we sponsored the networking equipment and were the ones installing the APs on rooftops.
    - apercu 1y ago
      Cool project! You're probably right - I haven't been in the Liberty Village area much since 2014, and moved to the US in 2022.

lupusreal 1y ago

> I'm about 98% certain this is simply a ploy to put autistic people on a list for future abuses. Yes I think so. And I think they'll want to target people with autism particularly because people with autism are less likely to go with the flow, they question social customs and traditions that other people take for granted. Why do I have to wear a tie, what practical purpose does it serve? Why do I have to put forks on one side of the plate and knives on the other? Etc. Lower conformity to social norms, and a preference for precise and literal information. This tendency makes people with autism somewhat resistant (but not immune) to most normal forms of propaganda. This scares power hungry politicians.

BrandoElFollito 1y ago
> Lower conformity to social norms There is a blurry line that delimitates there "intolerent stiff society" from "chaos". Social norms are also there to keep some coherence in the society. Some should (not can, should) be challenged but how and which is not ready to define. Ties? Sure. What you wear? Sure. Whether you wear anything? Suu..euuh..re? Whether you wash yourself? We can challenge a bit yeah, but not too much, etc. I like eccentric people (being a bit one myself) but I also acknowledge that some irrational social norms are needed for cohesion. I cannot quantitively say which ones, though.

joquarky 1y ago

Just my non-scientific observations here, but it seems to me that most of the autistic people I've met tend to subtly call out people's bullshit more than the average person. It seems like some powerful contemporary political entities are highly averse to being called out, especially if it's a subtle jab that goes under their radar.