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The Ruby community has long had a rift between two types of members, the really nice folks that take after Matz, and techbro assholes like DHH. The former have

The Ruby community has long had a rift between two types of members, the really nice folks that take after Matz, and techbro assholes like DHH. The former have mostly tolerated the latter creating an ugly toxicity that the community has become known for, and is why I use Ruby, but have not involved myself with it. Zed Shaw, a well-known asshole himself, described it in this piece: https://harmful.cat-v.org/software/ruby/rails/is-a-ghetto https://harmful.cat-v.org/software/ruby/rails/is-a-ghetto DHH has been going off the deep end with his rhetoric for years, the current political environment has made it so that he can't be ignored anymore.

bhouston 1y ago
> HH has been going off the deep end with his rhetoric for years, the current political environment has made it so that he can't be ignored anymore. But Shopify is also right wing in its executive team, and via these move they appear to be support DHH: https://pressprogress.ca/shopify-executives-right-wing-media-website-rails-against-immigrants-while-defending-a-legally-designated-terrorist-group/ https://pressprogress.ca/shopify-executives-right-wing-media... https://disconnect.blog/the-conservative-tech-alliance-is-coming-to-canada/ https://disconnect.blog/the-conservative-tech-alliance-is-co... And yeah, Shopify is going to protect DHH because DHH is on Shopify's board: https://www.shopify.com/news/david-heinemeier-hansson-board https://www.shopify.com/news/david-heinemeier-hansson-board
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- vinceguidry 1y ago
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- bradly 1y ago
  Just to add a bit of context here... DHH was added to the Shopify board last year. Shopify also brought in a CTO with very questionable actions and statements during multiple company townhalls and all-hands. He would be making wild statements on stream while VPs would be in the Slack channel trying to defuse and reframe. This was a big reason why I left Shopify last spring.
dismalaf 1y ago
Except Matz is aligned with DHH, Tobi and others. I think lots of people confuse "nice" with "supporting every weird American left-wing cause pushed by certain corporations". Keep in mind most of the people who actually run the Ruby ecosystem and drive it forward aren't American, and it's mostly Americans whining about it. Also, people opposing it (Sidekiq, the guys starting "rv", etc...) have a vested financial interest in opposing Rails and rubygems...
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  - fourseventy 1y ago
    not everyone you disagree with is a nazi.
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baggy_trough 1y ago
It would be more accurate to say that the rift is between intolerant progressive activists and people who just want to work on the code without getting politics involved.

bhouston 1y ago

> HH has been going off the deep end with his rhetoric for years, the current political environment has made it so that he can't be ignored anymore. But Shopify is also right wing in its executive team, and via these move they appear to be support DHH: https://pressprogress.ca/shopify-executives-right-wing-media-website-rails-against-immigrants-while-defending-a-legally-designated-terrorist-group/ https://pressprogress.ca/shopify-executives-right-wing-media... https://disconnect.blog/the-conservative-tech-alliance-is-coming-to-canada/ https://disconnect.blog/the-conservative-tech-alliance-is-co... And yeah, Shopify is going to protect DHH because DHH is on Shopify's board: https://www.shopify.com/news/david-heinemeier-hansson-board https://www.shopify.com/news/david-heinemeier-hansson-board

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vinceguidry 1y ago
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bradly 1y ago
Just to add a bit of context here... DHH was added to the Shopify board last year. Shopify also brought in a CTO with very questionable actions and statements during multiple company townhalls and all-hands. He would be making wild statements on stream while VPs would be in the Slack channel trying to defuse and reframe. This was a big reason why I left Shopify last spring.

dismalaf 1y ago

Except Matz is aligned with DHH, Tobi and others. I think lots of people confuse "nice" with "supporting every weird American left-wing cause pushed by certain corporations". Keep in mind most of the people who actually run the Ruby ecosystem and drive it forward aren't American, and it's mostly Americans whining about it. Also, people opposing it (Sidekiq, the guys starting "rv", etc...) have a vested financial interest in opposing Rails and rubygems...

prmoustache 1y ago
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- fourseventy 1y ago
  not everyone you disagree with is a nazi.
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baggy_trough 1y ago

It would be more accurate to say that the rift is between intolerant progressive activists and people who just want to work on the code without getting politics involved.