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Judge for yourself: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 (a web search on "Tommy Robi

Judge for yourself: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 (a web search on "Tommy Robinson" would help with context).

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 1y ago
Are you sure you posted the right article? There's nothing about Ruby or RubyGems in it.
- madeofpalk 1y ago
  The question was "Why was "platforming" DHH bad?". Some people disagree with the views represented in that linked blog post, and do not wish to sponsor events that showcase him. Personally, I think DHH is a troll and would never be interested in sponsoring, or attending, an event that involved him.
- vidarh 1y ago
  There is, however, a whole lot that says a lot about the character of DHH in it, such as by repeating rhetoric of the UK's racist far-right.
  - bakugo 1y ago
    Pushing everyone who doesn't have a 100% positive opinion on mass immigration under the label of "racist far-right" actively contributes to the strengthening of said "racist far-right". I hope you're aware of that.
    - deleted 1y ago
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    - philipwhiuk 1y ago
      Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon is openly racist and definitely far-right.
    - croes 1y ago
      Maybe the problem is the native Brits. Because the link he posted shows that the third of London he calls Native British is just White British. Do you think non-white can’t be native British. Is Idris Elba not native British? After hie many generations are you native British or is it impossible if you are not white? This isn’t about mass immigration, it’s just about immigration as such. That’s far-right.
      - prmoustache 1y ago
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      - bakugo 1y ago
        > Do you think non-white can’t be native British. Is Idris Elba not native British? > After hie many generations are you native British or is it impossible if you are not white? Consider the existence and meaning of the term "Native American", then ask yourself these questions again.
      - vidarh 1y ago
        I'll note I'm white, but not native British, and none of the people in question tend to object to me being here. Often they make that explicit, by e.g. telling me that I'm "one of the good ones" or similar. What instead often happen when they hear I'm Norwegian is a complete mask-off moment where they start explaining their favorite racist thinking to me, assuming that since I'm from a group they like, apparently I'm expected to agree with them (I do not). My main exposure to anti-immigrant thinking face to face in London over the last 25 years have been repeated incidences of people who "just have concerns about immigration" revealing their racist motivations to me without me even asking them. In other words: I don't buy it for a second when people try to insist it's immigration they care about, rather than seeing non-white faces.
        zahlman 1y ago
        > In other words: I don't buy it for a second when people try to insist it's immigration they care about, rather than seeing non-white faces. Have any of them ever proposed to you to expel the established black families? If they're just being racist, you should naturally expect it to extend that far, right?
  - DrProtic 1y ago
    If speaking of problems caused by immigration makes you racist far-right means you effectively can't speak about those problems. Having a city turn from majority British to British being minority means something very strange and damaging is happening.
    - madeofpalk 1y ago
      DHH has not spoken about the problems caused by mass migration. Just lamenting the fact that a country is apparently less white than it used to be. He also doesn't live here. What does he know about London?
      - bakugo 1y ago
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        prmoustache 1y ago
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        bakugo 1y ago
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    - jjgreen 1y ago
      Londinium was founded by foreigners; bloody Italians coming over here and establishing our capital, mutter mutter ...
    - croes 1y ago
      You are mixing White/Non-White with British/Non-British
      - DrProtic 1y ago
        You assume that because you have bias. Over 40% of current residents of London are not born in Britain.
- notwhereyouare 1y ago
  David Heinemeier Hansson, also known by his initials DHH, is a Danish programmer, writer, entrepreneur, and racing driver. He is the creator of Ruby on Rails, a web framework written in Ruby.[1]
lbrito 1y ago
Having read stuff from DHH for a long time, this does not surprise me in the least. It just feels like he picked the right time, zeitgeist-wise, to fully come out of the closet. I distinctly remember a specific Twitter comment, maybe 7ish years ago, that solidified my view on DHH as a person. It was a thread about remote work. Someone from South America commented trying to be nice to David, saying something like "you should work remotely from Chile, it has a great Ruby community" etc, to which his response was "I've no interest in living in a 3rd world country". Notch-esque politics aside, that was mean-spirited, inconsiderate behavior which should not be applauded. From that day I strongly sensed that was who he truly was.
ecshafer 1y ago
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- aduty 1y ago
  That is the gist of it.
- doublerabbit 1y ago
  > He liked the nationalistic display of a march in England? Replace "nationalistic" with "fascist". That's the issue.
  - AlexandrB 1y ago
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    - doublerabbit 1y ago
      Just look up Tommy Robinson. > He was a member of the British National Party (BNP), a British fascist political party. [1] A march in honor of Tommy Robinson, who is a fascist. Not sure what else to tell you. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson
      - mvdtnz 1y ago
        Post the rest of the sentence, > He was a member of the British National Party (BNP), a British fascist political party, from 2004 to 2005.
        deleted 1y ago
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    - stevenbedrick 1y ago
      Umberto Eco gave a pretty well-reasoned definition of Facism, and I think it's pretty straightforward to apply this definition to the situation in London (and DHH's commentary thereon): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism
bhouston 1y ago
DHH is on Shopify's board now: https://www.shopify.com/news/david-heinemeier-hansson-board https://www.shopify.com/news/david-heinemeier-hansson-board Shopify's support for DHH's world view makes sense. Shopify's executive team has been right-wing for a while now: https://pressprogress.ca/shopify-executives-right-wing-media-website-rails-against-immigrants-while-defending-a-legally-designated-terrorist-group/ https://pressprogress.ca/shopify-executives-right-wing-media... https://disconnect.blog/the-conservative-tech-alliance-is-coming-to-canada/ https://disconnect.blog/the-conservative-tech-alliance-is-co...
basisword 1y ago
He's really gone off the deep end and evidently knows fuck all about London or the patriotic march he's discussing.
- msie 1y ago
  He's made comments supporting the Trucker protest in Canada and he knew fuck all about it too.
  - LightBug1 1y ago
    There's seems to be a trend of knowing fuck all ... except about Ruby on Rails. Sounds like DHH has finally realised he has enough fuck you money. And that is the truest test of character you can ever have. Elon Musk failed. DHH failed. ... failed. Etc.

Judge for yourself: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 (a web search on "Tommy Robinson" would help with context).

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 1y ago

Are you sure you posted the right article? There's nothing about Ruby or RubyGems in it.

madeofpalk 1y ago
The question was "Why was "platforming" DHH bad?". Some people disagree with the views represented in that linked blog post, and do not wish to sponsor events that showcase him. Personally, I think DHH is a troll and would never be interested in sponsoring, or attending, an event that involved him.
vidarh 1y ago
There is, however, a whole lot that says a lot about the character of DHH in it, such as by repeating rhetoric of the UK's racist far-right.
- bakugo 1y ago
  Pushing everyone who doesn't have a 100% positive opinion on mass immigration under the label of "racist far-right" actively contributes to the strengthening of said "racist far-right". I hope you're aware of that.
  - deleted 1y ago
    [deleted]
  - philipwhiuk 1y ago
    Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon is openly racist and definitely far-right.
  - croes 1y ago
    Maybe the problem is the native Brits. Because the link he posted shows that the third of London he calls Native British is just White British. Do you think non-white can’t be native British. Is Idris Elba not native British? After hie many generations are you native British or is it impossible if you are not white? This isn’t about mass immigration, it’s just about immigration as such. That’s far-right.
    - prmoustache 1y ago
      [flagged]
    - bakugo 1y ago
      > Do you think non-white can’t be native British. Is Idris Elba not native British? > After hie many generations are you native British or is it impossible if you are not white? Consider the existence and meaning of the term "Native American", then ask yourself these questions again.
    - vidarh 1y ago
      I'll note I'm white, but not native British, and none of the people in question tend to object to me being here. Often they make that explicit, by e.g. telling me that I'm "one of the good ones" or similar. What instead often happen when they hear I'm Norwegian is a complete mask-off moment where they start explaining their favorite racist thinking to me, assuming that since I'm from a group they like, apparently I'm expected to agree with them (I do not). My main exposure to anti-immigrant thinking face to face in London over the last 25 years have been repeated incidences of people who "just have concerns about immigration" revealing their racist motivations to me without me even asking them. In other words: I don't buy it for a second when people try to insist it's immigration they care about, rather than seeing non-white faces.
      - zahlman 1y ago
        > In other words: I don't buy it for a second when people try to insist it's immigration they care about, rather than seeing non-white faces. Have any of them ever proposed to you to expel the established black families? If they're just being racist, you should naturally expect it to extend that far, right?
- DrProtic 1y ago
  If speaking of problems caused by immigration makes you racist far-right means you effectively can't speak about those problems. Having a city turn from majority British to British being minority means something very strange and damaging is happening.
  - madeofpalk 1y ago
    DHH has not spoken about the problems caused by mass migration. Just lamenting the fact that a country is apparently less white than it used to be. He also doesn't live here. What does he know about London?
    - bakugo 1y ago
      [flagged]
      - prmoustache 1y ago
        [flagged]
        bakugo 1y ago
        [flagged]
  - jjgreen 1y ago
    Londinium was founded by foreigners; bloody Italians coming over here and establishing our capital, mutter mutter ...
  - croes 1y ago
    You are mixing White/Non-White with British/Non-British
    - DrProtic 1y ago
      You assume that because you have bias. Over 40% of current residents of London are not born in Britain.
notwhereyouare 1y ago
David Heinemeier Hansson, also known by his initials DHH, is a Danish programmer, writer, entrepreneur, and racing driver. He is the creator of Ruby on Rails, a web framework written in Ruby.[1]

lbrito 1y ago

Having read stuff from DHH for a long time, this does not surprise me in the least. It just feels like he picked the right time, zeitgeist-wise, to fully come out of the closet. I distinctly remember a specific Twitter comment, maybe 7ish years ago, that solidified my view on DHH as a person. It was a thread about remote work. Someone from South America commented trying to be nice to David, saying something like "you should work remotely from Chile, it has a great Ruby community" etc, to which his response was "I've no interest in living in a 3rd world country". Notch-esque politics aside, that was mean-spirited, inconsiderate behavior which should not be applauded. From that day I strongly sensed that was who he truly was.

ecshafer 1y ago

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aduty 1y ago
That is the gist of it.
doublerabbit 1y ago
> He liked the nationalistic display of a march in England? Replace "nationalistic" with "fascist". That's the issue.
- AlexandrB 1y ago
  [flagged]
  - doublerabbit 1y ago
    Just look up Tommy Robinson. > He was a member of the British National Party (BNP), a British fascist political party. [1] A march in honor of Tommy Robinson, who is a fascist. Not sure what else to tell you. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson
    - mvdtnz 1y ago
      Post the rest of the sentence, > He was a member of the British National Party (BNP), a British fascist political party, from 2004 to 2005.
      - deleted 1y ago
        [deleted]
  - stevenbedrick 1y ago
    Umberto Eco gave a pretty well-reasoned definition of Facism, and I think it's pretty straightforward to apply this definition to the situation in London (and DHH's commentary thereon): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism

bhouston 1y ago

DHH is on Shopify's board now: https://www.shopify.com/news/david-heinemeier-hansson-board https://www.shopify.com/news/david-heinemeier-hansson-board Shopify's support for DHH's world view makes sense. Shopify's executive team has been right-wing for a while now: https://pressprogress.ca/shopify-executives-right-wing-media-website-rails-against-immigrants-while-defending-a-legally-designated-terrorist-group/ https://pressprogress.ca/shopify-executives-right-wing-media... https://disconnect.blog/the-conservative-tech-alliance-is-coming-to-canada/ https://disconnect.blog/the-conservative-tech-alliance-is-co...

basisword 1y ago

He's really gone off the deep end and evidently knows fuck all about London or the patriotic march he's discussing.

msie 1y ago
He's made comments supporting the Trucker protest in Canada and he knew fuck all about it too.
- LightBug1 1y ago
  There's seems to be a trend of knowing fuck all ... except about Ruby on Rails. Sounds like DHH has finally realised he has enough fuck you money. And that is the truest test of character you can ever have. Elon Musk failed. DHH failed. ... failed. Etc.