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Not a word or whisper about environmental impact, either. I mean at least do some hand waving or something. I feel like a habitable planet is a fundamental righ

Not a word or whisper about environmental impact, either. I mean at least do some hand waving or something. I feel like a habitable planet is a fundamental right.

listic 1y ago
Not to defend what Altman is saying, but is OpenAI actually using or going to use that much power? This Reuters source the US power budget will be 4,187 TWh in 2025: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-power-use-reach-record-highs-2025-2026-eia-says-2025-09-09/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-power-use-reach-r...
- heeton 1y ago
  Adding 10GW of power as they plan, is 87TWh. 2%. That’s huge. The hope is that this can drive renewables or nuclear rollout, but not sure that hope is realistic.
  - ryanmerket 1y ago
    Altman is an investor in OKLO. I'm expecting an announcement with companies like that where they can federal dollars to speed up R&D.
- pera 1y ago
  The US is the second most energy-hungry country on Earth (the first one being China, a country that accounts for almost 30% of the global manufacturing output), so I think it's better to compare it against the rest of the world: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electricity_consumption https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electri... Every country bellow the top 40 has a consumption lower than 87.6 TWh per year, that includes developed countries like Finland and Belgium, so yes, 10 gigawatts is a lot of power.
mainecoder 1y ago
No worries once we have AGI we will ask it how to make up for all the emissions and solve climate change ...
- supjeff 1y ago
  AGI answer: "Individual people must change their habits"
  - antisthenes 1y ago
    Maybe it'll be "There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer".
sensanaty 1y ago
Duh, you just ask the magical AI "how fix global warming" and it fixes global warming, same way it'll cure cancer magically.

Not a word or whisper about environmental impact, either. I mean at least do some hand waving or something. I feel like a habitable planet is a fundamental right.

listic 1y ago

Not to defend what Altman is saying, but is OpenAI actually using or going to use that much power? This Reuters source the US power budget will be 4,187 TWh in 2025: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-power-use-reach-record-highs-2025-2026-eia-says-2025-09-09/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-power-use-reach-r...

heeton 1y ago
Adding 10GW of power as they plan, is 87TWh. 2%. That’s huge. The hope is that this can drive renewables or nuclear rollout, but not sure that hope is realistic.
- ryanmerket 1y ago
  Altman is an investor in OKLO. I'm expecting an announcement with companies like that where they can federal dollars to speed up R&D.
pera 1y ago
The US is the second most energy-hungry country on Earth (the first one being China, a country that accounts for almost 30% of the global manufacturing output), so I think it's better to compare it against the rest of the world: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electricity_consumption https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electri... Every country bellow the top 40 has a consumption lower than 87.6 TWh per year, that includes developed countries like Finland and Belgium, so yes, 10 gigawatts is a lot of power.

mainecoder 1y ago

No worries once we have AGI we will ask it how to make up for all the emissions and solve climate change ...

supjeff 1y ago
AGI answer: "Individual people must change their habits"
- antisthenes 1y ago
  Maybe it'll be "There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer".

sensanaty 1y ago

Duh, you just ask the magical AI "how fix global warming" and it fixes global warming, same way it'll cure cancer magically.