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They were running an extortion and intimidation campaigns. Remember when Trump was running the second time? Those white Americans who were calling people all t

They were running an extortion and intimidation campaigns. Remember when Trump was running the second time? Those white Americans who were calling people all throughout America with those moronic threatening messages? Until it happens to you or yours it is hard to comprehend. May the Internet gods provide an audio link.

delfinom 1y ago
Were they? I haven't seen that stated anywhere. The news report from NYTimes does say "the cartels were using it too". >One official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said agents also found 80 grams of cocaine, illegal firearms, computers and cellphones when they discovered the network. Sounds like literally a mobile botnet and it was probably just leased out access to a range of users. Leasing access to botnets and other resources is 1000% normal in the "crime web" and is a business in of itself rather than being directly part of the crimes. On top of that, a "nation state" attacker isn't going to be giving their employees cocaine, unless its Hamas lolololol.
engineer_22 1y ago
> Remember when Trump was running the second time? Those white Americans who were calling people all throughout America with those moronic threatening messages? I've never heard of this, do you have a source?
- Helithumper 1y ago
  https://www.reuters.com/legal/republican-operatives-pay-125-mln-robocalls-threatening-black-voters-ny-2024-04-09/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/republican-operatives-pay-125-... https://www.nysenate.gov/sites/default/files/admin/structure/media/manage/filefile/a/2024-11/a11.-national-coalition-on-black-civic-participation-v-wohl.pdf https://www.nysenate.gov/sites/default/files/admin/structure...
  - engineer_22 1y ago
    thanks, made it sound like the broad cooperation of White people writ large, but it was just 2 guys
    - sunscream89 1y ago
      You think “two guys”? There are hundreds of thousands of politically active white guys relying on extortion and social subterfuge. Anyone can only catch “one or two” at a time. The White House just buried its report on white terror in America. Let me guess, you’ve never heard of it?
      - engineer_22 1y ago
        how do we fix the problem of all these White guys?
        slater 1y ago
        We tried, but that provided the right wing folks with their boogie-man du jour, labelled as "woke" and "DEI" (pejoratively by them), and the baby boomers were all "nuh-uh, that'd help THOSE PEOPLE! we can't have that!" and that was that.
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        sunscream89 1y ago
        Stop pretending they love Jesus and work from moral and lawful foundations instead? Sarcasm aside, the problem is far worse than one could imagine or anecdotally discuss on HN.
        engineer_22 1y ago
        >problem is far worse than one could imagine or anecdotally discuss on HN. What do you mean by that?

delfinom 1y ago

Were they? I haven't seen that stated anywhere. The news report from NYTimes does say "the cartels were using it too". >One official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said agents also found 80 grams of cocaine, illegal firearms, computers and cellphones when they discovered the network. Sounds like literally a mobile botnet and it was probably just leased out access to a range of users. Leasing access to botnets and other resources is 1000% normal in the "crime web" and is a business in of itself rather than being directly part of the crimes. On top of that, a "nation state" attacker isn't going to be giving their employees cocaine, unless its Hamas lolololol.

engineer_22 1y ago

> Remember when Trump was running the second time? Those white Americans who were calling people all throughout America with those moronic threatening messages? I've never heard of this, do you have a source?

Helithumper 1y ago
https://www.reuters.com/legal/republican-operatives-pay-125-mln-robocalls-threatening-black-voters-ny-2024-04-09/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/republican-operatives-pay-125-... https://www.nysenate.gov/sites/default/files/admin/structure/media/manage/filefile/a/2024-11/a11.-national-coalition-on-black-civic-participation-v-wohl.pdf https://www.nysenate.gov/sites/default/files/admin/structure...
- engineer_22 1y ago
  thanks, made it sound like the broad cooperation of White people writ large, but it was just 2 guys
  - sunscream89 1y ago
    You think “two guys”? There are hundreds of thousands of politically active white guys relying on extortion and social subterfuge. Anyone can only catch “one or two” at a time. The White House just buried its report on white terror in America. Let me guess, you’ve never heard of it?
    - engineer_22 1y ago
      how do we fix the problem of all these White guys?
      - slater 1y ago
        We tried, but that provided the right wing folks with their boogie-man du jour, labelled as "woke" and "DEI" (pejoratively by them), and the baby boomers were all "nuh-uh, that'd help THOSE PEOPLE! we can't have that!" and that was that.
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      - sunscream89 1y ago
        Stop pretending they love Jesus and work from moral and lawful foundations instead? Sarcasm aside, the problem is far worse than one could imagine or anecdotally discuss on HN.
        engineer_22 1y ago
        >problem is far worse than one could imagine or anecdotally discuss on HN. What do you mean by that?