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As far as I can see this is a non-Governmental non-profit doing this. So it has no legal merit. Can’t tell if this is the ad industry attempting to self-regulat

As far as I can see this is a non-Governmental non-profit doing this. So it has no legal merit. Can’t tell if this is the ad industry attempting to self-regulate? The Wikipedia articles are quite mealy. I do tend to agree with the findings, regardless.

b3lvedere 1y ago
https://bbbprograms.org/about?faq=%5B_IsBBBNationalProgramsapartoftheBBB1%2C_Whatisindustryselfregulation2%5D https://bbbprograms.org/about?faq=%5B_IsBBBNationalProgramsa... Indeed. It's one of those "we joined this program so now you all can see we are very committed to ensure our consumers are well protected" non-profit organisations.
dragonwriter 1y ago
> As far as I can see this is a non-Governmental non-profit doing this. So it has no legal merit. It has no legal weight. Lave of legal merit is a feature of a legal argument and is missing if the argument improperly represents the law, not if it comes from a source that doesn’t provide it legal weight. (Since you later say you agree with it. that is equivalent to saying that, insofar as it is a legal argument, that argument does have legal merit.) > Can’t tell if this is the ad industry attempting to self-regulate? No, it is a non-advertising industry non-profit doing research and reporting to the public, which potentially puts political pressure on government actors (State Attorneys-General and, maybe, the FTC) to take action (it could also provide ammunition for private lawsuits, except COPPA doesn’t provide a private cause of action.) Note that a part of COPPA regulation is a Safe Harbor provision which involves industry self-regulation and certification, but that only protects against FTC, not state, action.
- ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 1y ago
  > Lave of legal merit Lack?
- pityJuke 1y ago
  Ooo, never knew those words actually had different meanings in the legal context. Appreciate it :).
daedrdev 1y ago
Yeah the bbb continues to act like a federal agency even though its just a private group
jonas21 1y ago
Yeah, ironically, it's the BBB, which used to rate businesses based in part on how much the business paid them (without disclosing this to consumers, of course). https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/business-bureau-best-ratings-money-buy/story?id=12123843 https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/business-bureau-best-ratings-...

b3lvedere 1y ago

https://bbbprograms.org/about?faq=%5B_IsBBBNationalProgramsapartoftheBBB1%2C_Whatisindustryselfregulation2%5D https://bbbprograms.org/about?faq=%5B_IsBBBNationalProgramsa... Indeed. It's one of those "we joined this program so now you all can see we are very committed to ensure our consumers are well protected" non-profit organisations.

dragonwriter 1y ago

> As far as I can see this is a non-Governmental non-profit doing this. So it has no legal merit. It has no legal weight. Lave of legal merit is a feature of a legal argument and is missing if the argument improperly represents the law, not if it comes from a source that doesn’t provide it legal weight. (Since you later say you agree with it. that is equivalent to saying that, insofar as it is a legal argument, that argument does have legal merit.) > Can’t tell if this is the ad industry attempting to self-regulate? No, it is a non-advertising industry non-profit doing research and reporting to the public, which potentially puts political pressure on government actors (State Attorneys-General and, maybe, the FTC) to take action (it could also provide ammunition for private lawsuits, except COPPA doesn’t provide a private cause of action.) Note that a part of COPPA regulation is a Safe Harbor provision which involves industry self-regulation and certification, but that only protects against FTC, not state, action.

ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 1y ago
> Lave of legal merit Lack?
pityJuke 1y ago
Ooo, never knew those words actually had different meanings in the legal context. Appreciate it :).

daedrdev 1y ago

Yeah the bbb continues to act like a federal agency even though its just a private group

jonas21 1y ago

Yeah, ironically, it's the BBB, which used to rate businesses based in part on how much the business paid them (without disclosing this to consumers, of course). https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/business-bureau-best-ratings-money-buy/story?id=12123843 https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/business-bureau-best-ratings-...