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Europe's cookie law messed up the internet. Brussels wants to fix it

10 points by mvdwoord 1y ago

mvdwoord 1y ago
Makes you wonder, what other things did the EU mess up, and which of those do they want to fix..
nabla9 1y ago
>privacy rules that force websites to run cookie banners. This is such bullshit and common misconcepton. Websites DO NOT have to run cookie banners! If you only have necessary cookie for session and do not track users, you don't have to show cookie banner. Websites that want to invade privacy must run cookie banner to ask permission.
- mvdwoord 1y ago
  >a law called the e-Privacy Directive to require websites to get consent from users before loading cookies on their devices, unless the cookies are “strictly necessary” to provide a service. Fast forward to 2025 and the internet is full of consent banners that users have long learned to click away without thinking twice. I think that is the issue here.
  - bloak 1y ago
    Yes, clicking "Customize" then "Reject all" is annoying, but it beats "Copy link address", "New Incognito window", then paste and return.
    - nabla9 1y ago
      The obvious regulatory improvement is that reject-all is default and all other options must be harder to get. ps. Current solution is use browser extension to automate rejection. Consent-O-Matic https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-matic/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-mat... https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/consent-o-matic/mdjildafknihdffpkfmmpnpoiajfjnjd?pli=1 https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/consent-o-matic/mdj... https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/consent-o-matic/id1606897889 https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/consent-o-matic/id1606897889
- unmole 1y ago
  > Websites that want to invade privacy must run cookie banner to ask permission. Why does the EU want to invade my privacy? https://european-union.europa.eu/index_en https://european-union.europa.eu/index_en
  - Gravityloss 1y ago
    https://european-union.europa.eu/cookies_en https://european-union.europa.eu/cookies_en I'm certainly not a web developer expert, maybe someone can break this down.
juliangmp 1y ago
Ah yeah the banners are the problem, not the fact that almost every website out there wants to know every detail of my entire life...
- unmole 1y ago
  > almost every website When https://european-union.europa.eu/index_en https://european-union.europa.eu/index_en has a cookie banner, it's entirely fair to blame the EU. Until quite recently even https://gdpr.eu/ https://gdpr.eu/ had a cookie banner. They finally got around to fixing that irony.
- harel 1y ago
  Actually yes the banners bring up cookie rage. When in cookie rage I'll click anything to make that banner go away. And then repeat the next visit. The banners make me not care. Give me a global in browser setting for that.
  - nabla9 1y ago
    If you look other answers here you find a solution.
    - harel 1y ago
      I don't want those banners. I don't want extensions or artificial solutions to a manufactured problem. I want to set up my preference in my browser, once, and have it respected by all sites i visit. I'm not sure why my comment was downvoted for stating a personal preference. For me, those banners do the opposite of what they were meant to.
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10 points by mvdwoord 1y ago

Makes you wonder, what other things did the EU mess up, and which of those do they want to fix..

>privacy rules that force websites to run cookie banners. This is such bullshit and common misconcepton. Websites DO NOT have to run cookie banners! If you only have necessary cookie for session and do not track users, you don't have to show cookie banner. Websites that want to invade privacy must run cookie banner to ask permission.

mvdwoord 1y ago
>a law called the e-Privacy Directive to require websites to get consent from users before loading cookies on their devices, unless the cookies are “strictly necessary” to provide a service. Fast forward to 2025 and the internet is full of consent banners that users have long learned to click away without thinking twice. I think that is the issue here.
- bloak 1y ago
  Yes, clicking "Customize" then "Reject all" is annoying, but it beats "Copy link address", "New Incognito window", then paste and return.
  - nabla9 1y ago
    The obvious regulatory improvement is that reject-all is default and all other options must be harder to get. ps. Current solution is use browser extension to automate rejection. Consent-O-Matic https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-matic/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-mat... https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/consent-o-matic/mdjildafknihdffpkfmmpnpoiajfjnjd?pli=1 https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/consent-o-matic/mdj... https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/consent-o-matic/id1606897889 https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/consent-o-matic/id1606897889
unmole 1y ago
> Websites that want to invade privacy must run cookie banner to ask permission. Why does the EU want to invade my privacy? https://european-union.europa.eu/index_en https://european-union.europa.eu/index_en
- Gravityloss 1y ago
  https://european-union.europa.eu/cookies_en https://european-union.europa.eu/cookies_en I'm certainly not a web developer expert, maybe someone can break this down.

juliangmp 1y ago

Ah yeah the banners are the problem, not the fact that almost every website out there wants to know every detail of my entire life...

unmole 1y ago
> almost every website When https://european-union.europa.eu/index_en https://european-union.europa.eu/index_en has a cookie banner, it's entirely fair to blame the EU. Until quite recently even https://gdpr.eu/ https://gdpr.eu/ had a cookie banner. They finally got around to fixing that irony.
harel 1y ago
Actually yes the banners bring up cookie rage. When in cookie rage I'll click anything to make that banner go away. And then repeat the next visit. The banners make me not care. Give me a global in browser setting for that.
- nabla9 1y ago
  If you look other answers here you find a solution.
  - harel 1y ago
    I don't want those banners. I don't want extensions or artificial solutions to a manufactured problem. I want to set up my preference in my browser, once, and have it respected by all sites i visit. I'm not sure why my comment was downvoted for stating a personal preference. For me, those banners do the opposite of what they were meant to.
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