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You seem to have not understood that in politics, it was never about values. It was about beliefs, that's why the right wing is winning, always, just from a ga

You seem to have not understood that in politics, it was never about values. It was about beliefs, that's why the right wing is winning, always, just from a game strategy viewpoint. Trying to find a compromise is losing the game in the long term. That's why doxxing in public is so effective for the right wing, because it moves the needle of what is okay to say as a rhetoric, while lowering the chance of finding a compromise, too. The more hate it spreads, the better. And the absolutists on the left side of the spectrum are just as radicalized by now as a copycat game strategy. The irony here is that if they would get voted into the Capitol, they would stalemate democracy just the same. And that's the bug that Putin is exploiting with his propaganda machine, since 2011, the day he realized he must control the media when Gorbachev's daughter tried to start a coup and failed. Also check out what happened to MTV in Russia, which had a comedy show about Putin. That's what's happening to Jimmy Kimmel right now (and probably John Oliver soon).

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> It was about beliefs, that's why the right wing is winning, always, just from a game strategy viewpoint It wasn't always like this. But if you remove the classics and philosophy from high school, and then dilute the liberal arts in undergrad into gimme courses, you wind up with generations who can't think about values. And then you devolve into purely transactional politics.
- cookiengineer 1y ago
  Isn't this the goal of the current administration? Everything they did this year to the education system, cutting funding, force-aligning them with political views, eradicating Democratic government members... it all boils down to creating the education system that creates the next generation of MAGA followers that are easier to control and easier to rule. Just the mandatory AI usage in the education sector combined with the "bug" in the library of congress' website that showed a different version of the constitution when you set the User Agent to an LLM one; which specifically removed all parts that had rights to call for militia by the House of Congress (which cannot be a "bug", let's be honest) ... is such a red flag for me.
- cafard 1y ago
  >> remove the classics and philosophy from high school I attended an American high school at the beginning of the 1970s. We may have read a few pages from Plato, but that was about it for anything like philosophy. My son went to a better school, and there read some of the Nicomachean Ethics, which is more than I got. But it is not extensive coverage. As for the classics, it would depend on what you consider classics. I would be interested to learn what high schools, outside a very narrow band of selective schools, used to teach the classics and philosophy.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

> It was about beliefs, that's why the right wing is winning, always, just from a game strategy viewpoint It wasn't always like this. But if you remove the classics and philosophy from high school, and then dilute the liberal arts in undergrad into gimme courses, you wind up with generations who can't think about values. And then you devolve into purely transactional politics.

cookiengineer 1y ago
Isn't this the goal of the current administration? Everything they did this year to the education system, cutting funding, force-aligning them with political views, eradicating Democratic government members... it all boils down to creating the education system that creates the next generation of MAGA followers that are easier to control and easier to rule. Just the mandatory AI usage in the education sector combined with the "bug" in the library of congress' website that showed a different version of the constitution when you set the User Agent to an LLM one; which specifically removed all parts that had rights to call for militia by the House of Congress (which cannot be a "bug", let's be honest) ... is such a red flag for me.
cafard 1y ago
>> remove the classics and philosophy from high school I attended an American high school at the beginning of the 1970s. We may have read a few pages from Plato, but that was about it for anything like philosophy. My son went to a better school, and there read some of the Nicomachean Ethics, which is more than I got. But it is not extensive coverage. As for the classics, it would depend on what you consider classics. I would be interested to learn what high schools, outside a very narrow band of selective schools, used to teach the classics and philosophy.